Delve

**Yugl** · 2013-05-27 07:57

Is the Kurma bonus affecting QD? If so, probably the Damage Type term rather than MDT.

**Fake** · 2013-05-27 08:04

Didn't have a cor there to check, and when I tried other enspells it resisted even worse than thunder + my schs crappy nuking gear couldn't do any unresisted nukes.

Doesn't seem to affect melee damage though and I haven't seen any above average damage QDs from previous fights (before we knew about the magic damage thing). If it works on mura though it will be a very easy fight to do with ~12 people.

**Taint** · 2013-05-27 08:32

Originally Posted by dasva

Definitely harder than vw. Idiots will ruin shit for you. You wont see a pug group beating these... hell you will see pug groups failing at fodder mobs in there or just the regular nms. Guess people forget they can't non stop pop fanatics

Gunna take some skill and well put together pts probably consistenting largely of hateless or low hate dmg. At least that's what I take away reading and little I've fought. Beads are a bit of a cockblock too

He said when VW was first released. It was pretty fun and at times difficult. (before temp spam) Pil and Kaggen were pretty awesome fights when first released.

These bosses are already being farmed, the only cock block is the beads.

**Odin'sLaw** · 2013-05-27 08:41

Originally Posted by Yugl

Is the Kurma bonus affecting QD? If so, probably the Damage Type term rather than MDT.

did kurma last night CORs said after 1 harden shell thunder shot was doing 1.7k

**Tymon** · 2013-05-27 12:00

Originally Posted by Mythe_Seraph

Haven't played since like 2009 but keep up with the game pretty well. Am I correct in assuming that these bosses really aren't "that" hard? Less so than void watch when it was first released? Or is this like some serious absolute virtue type shit that just happened to be killed in the first month due to some insanely awesome play by a select alliance consisting of only the top tier RNGs + Buffers and the most highly geared and cohesive tank party imaginable?

I feel like this will all be farmable by a large quantity of groups by the end of the summer, am I wrong in this assumption?

The problem right now that will, I imagine, inevitably be changed (or people will figure out a workaround) is that you need to stack very specific jobs to win, and lots of them.

It's just not realistic for everyone that wants to do this to bring 5+ RNG and have 12 songs, etc.

**Taint** · 2013-05-27 12:34

Originally Posted by Tymon

The problem right now that will, I imagine, inevitably be changed (or people will figure out a workaround) is that you need to stack very specific jobs to win, and lots of them.

It's just not realistic for everyone that wants to do this to bring 5+ RNG and have 12 songs, etc.

The other issue is the 2NMs you must kill before facing the boss. That really favors the more organized heavier geared groups.

If the boss was a 30min BC vs just him there would be a ton more wins.

**dasva** · 2013-05-27 13:20

Originally Posted by Taint

He said when VW was first released. It was pretty fun and at times difficult. (before temp spam) Pil and Kaggen were pretty awesome fights when first released.

These bosses are already being farmed, the only cock block is the beads.

True but I still say you wont see a true pug doing it. Too much specific set ups good gear etc. Hell I know quite a few players in lss doing delve that could single handedly ruin a boss run lol

**Tymon** · 2013-05-27 13:43

Originally Posted by dasva

True but I still say you wont see a true pug doing it. Too much specific set ups good gear etc. Hell I know quite a few players in lss doing delve that could single handedly ruin a boss run lol

I'm fine with pugs never being able to do it.

The problem is that unlike Legion, an event where you can take a wide variety of setups in and be very successful (this also is the result of many adjustments) but still need to be skilled and have top of the line gear, you both have to have all of the above AND unrealistic job requirements.

It's nice if your LS can say "Everyone get a 99 annihilator" and work out the problem just like that, but the other 95% of the playerbase that's not going to happen.

**Taint** · 2013-05-27 13:55

Originally Posted by dasva

True but I still say you wont see a true pug doing it. Too much specific set ups good gear etc. Hell I know quite a few players in lss doing delve that could single handedly ruin a boss run lol

+1 so true...

**ccl** · 2013-05-27 14:17

Taint did you see the title or gear from the person that claim to have killed Tojil, I had to explain a JP we can't buy synth with KI to get a decent price on the GS, so they don't know that.

**Taint** · 2013-05-27 14:31

Originally Posted by ccl

Taint did you see the title or gear from the person that claim to have killed Tojil, I had to explain a JP we can't buy synth with KI to get a decent price on the GS, so they don't know that.

Need a SS? Known the guy for 8 years, he barely logs in but I can get one for you. Which NPC to change his title if he doesn't have it on him?

HP/Magemage is farming him hard on Cerberus. Not sure if they've attempted the shark yet.

**ccl** · 2013-05-27 14:43

oh okay I trust you no worry.

edit: I assume JP share a lot less than we do then.

**Lah** · 2013-05-27 16:10

When people say "Delve v2" is coming, are people assuming they will be more routes at this kind of level or a higher tier? Because the KIs are "impure" and "semipure" there might be a pure level?

**Yugl** · 2013-05-27 16:24

There are next page options that don't have items listed.

**Jem** · 2013-05-27 16:33

Originally Posted by Taint

Need a SS? Known the guy for 8 years, he barely logs in but I can get one for you. Which NPC to change his title if he doesn't have it on him?

HP/Magemage is farming him hard on Cerberus. Not sure if they've attempted the shark yet.

Just get him to take a screenshot of the available buyables in Morimar if you can't find the title NPC.

That being said, I would be more surprised if nobody else had killed than if someone else had. It's not easy but it's also not 75 AV either.

**ccl** · 2013-05-27 17:06

Originally Posted by Yugl

There are next page options that don't have items listed.

No, next page fill once you kill boss.

**Yugl** · 2013-05-27 17:22

Well played.

**dasva** · 2013-05-27 18:00

Originally Posted by Lah

When people say "Delve v2" is coming, are people assuming they will be more routes at this kind of level or a higher tier? Because the KIs are "impure" and "semipure" there might be a pure level?

I assume that with new reives there will be new naakuls of other mob families and that the update after will most likely have delve based on those just like current ones are based on current naakul/reive mobs

**umisame** · 2013-05-27 19:52

If new grip for smn is really good(i like to dream), you could kill last boss from fracture with smns ;o

**Draylo** · 2013-05-27 21:00

Is there a known gimmick to Faded Craklaw?

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