Delve

[ccl]

All their attack are AOE.(never tried shark, but most likely aoe too)

[Draylo]

reason no one buy weapons yet is prolly becausre they saving up for more... or they dont even have 180kish plasm

people i know all dont have that much, because they crazy upgraders and R15 nearly all the useful items

i had 800k at oine point, dropped to 500k now cos i sold some +2s to make my relic bow free XD

plasm is good money and easy to farm....

800k, the fuck? Do you not sleep?

[macross]

Maybe he farmed alot of shards and ate them!
I've gotten around 400k total on myself lol, and I'm pretty lazy about it.

[kenshyn]

I had no trouble landing Blind as Sch. So that's what, 404 skill? My enfeeb sets aren't even that great as I can't afford the inventory space for many enfeeb specific things so it's made mostly of stuff from other sets:

Chatoyant, Arbuda, Treatise
Nares/Hyksos, AF3, Aredan, Loquac.
AF3+2, Rubeus, Omega, Icesoul/Balrahn's
Kaikias's, Wanion/Casso, AF3+2, Rubeus/Nares.

So what your all saying is holy hell are the peeps blinding that fer gimped as hell on shiva for the last few nights. Man I was hoping you needed something more than pure suck less lol....

[NynJa]

I wasnt having many problems on my mules pretty gimped rdm. Even then, one saboteur ES blind should blind it for 7-8 min.

[kenshyn]

I wasnt having many problems on my mules pretty gimped rdm. Even then, one saboteur ES blind should blind it for 7-8 min.

Your killing me smalls your killing me......

[Dotsudoku]

How large are the AoEs? People still don't actually know much/anything about how Decoy Shot works, right?

Hello, following up from yesterday's post.

Please read these [fairly irrelevant] old posts:
* [Irrelevant post 1 link]
* [Irrelevant post 2 link]

With regards to yesterday's post, since there has been a different interpretation of Decoy Shot's effect, this section describes it in more detail:

Decoy Shot Lv95
Diverts enmity when launching a ranged attack from behind a party member.
Duration: 3 minutes
Recast: 5 minutes

The amount of enmity diverted with Decoy Shot is a specific percentage and does not have an upper limit.

Here are a couple of cases:

If you deal 250 damage with ranged attacks, the enmity added is a portion of 250 damage.

At this time, the enmity added to the ranger and the target PC is:
Ranger: 50 damage portion
Target PC: 200 damage portion


In the presence of the effect "Enmity-20, etc." equipped to the ranger, if you use Decoy Shot, and you deal 250 damage, due to the effects of Enmity-20, the enmity added will be a portion of 200 damage.

At this time, the enmity that is added to the ranger and the target PC is:
Ranger: No enmity added
Target PC: 200 damage portion


As you can see in the example above, with enmity- equipment on the ranger, enmity will be added only to the target PC and not to the ranger himself, complete transfer of the enmity is possible. (For high powered weapon skills such as Sidewinder, being aware of enmity is key to battles, such as greatly reducing the enmity with Stealth Shot).

Additionally, everyone has been concerned that the upper limit on enmity that can be transferred has not been provided. Continuous transfer of enmity is possible as long as it is within the duration of the Decoy Shot effect.


This information can be summarized as follows:

1: With abilities and/or equipment used by the hunter with "Enmity-" and awareness of the effect of Decoy Shot, it is possible to have no enmity added to the ranger.

2: With Decoy Shot in effect, you can transfer enmity to another PC as many times as you want.

3: Each time you attack, a certain amount of enmity is transferred.

4: There is no upper limit to the total amount of enmity it is possible to transfer.

Rough translation from Slycer a while back

[Slycer]

In addition to that, there was a post at a separate time that confirmed that the player target of Decoy Shot if there are multiple players in front of the ranger is the player closest to the monster which is the target of the ranged attack.

[Taint]

When we did bee we did this in the tunnel, the pipes are the wall.:

|PLD BEE|
|----PLD|
|--------|
|--------|
|--------|
|WHM RNG|

The PLD's would swap back and forth if they pulled hate on side. Our rangers pulled hate twice, a 11k barrage and a 19k barrage. I recall dying to the bee within 10. This seemed like a normal attack, not a TP move. I don't believe I had hate when it happened. All of its attacks might be AoE?

That would definitely be best after Hate reset. PLD that gets reset stands in front of the RNG.

DRG getting Decoyed still sounds like the best idea. Esp with Angon helping as well.

RNG should also use Camo before firing Barrage. (Sharp > Barrage > Camo > RA)

[Dotsudoku]

PUP with Alternator seems even better than DRG! Armor Shatterer seems to have an extremely accurate defense down, and the automaton would probably be able to contribute more damage than a DRG would.

Have the PUP stand between RNGs and Bee, use Ventriloquy -> Deactivate -> Activate etc

[Allen]

Diverts enmity when launching a ranged attack from behind a party member. Does decoy shot work on all ally members?

[Taint]

PUP with Alternator seems even better than DRG! Armor Shatterer seems to have an extremely accurate defense down, and the automaton would probably be able to contribute more damage than a DRG would.

Have the PUP stand between RNGs and Bee, use Ventriloquy -> Deactivate -> Activate etc

Pretty slick!

Ofcourse I know way more Ryu DRGs then geared PUPs! lol

[dasva]

The point of drg is it can shed the hate that is being decoyed onto them. So pup wouldn't work for that

[Dotsudoku]

Ventriloquy exchanges the enmity of the master and the automaton. Used in tandem with Deactivate, PUP can shed their enmity substantially faster than DRG

[Dotsudoku]

Pretty slick!

Ofcourse I know way more Ryu DRGs then geared PUPs! lol

Ryu DRG with a geared PUP-- what do I win?

[Lah]

What are the gear drop rates like for say Matamata or raptor? Would it ever make sense to try and farm their drops rather than use plasm on them or is it just faster and easier to plasm farm in pick up?

[kenshyn]

What are the gear drop rates like for say Matamata or raptor? Would it ever make sense to try and farm their drops rather than use plasm on them or is it just faster and easier to plasm farm in pick up?

Drop rate on matamata is low but you can farm him outside over and over again we gotten a group of us all pants, belts and a few hands. Depending on how you kill it can be hard getting TH up on the magic -> physical method we use. I hear rumors inside its a guaranteed drop of 1 item no experience just rumors.

[Lah]

I can't enter fracture so would be outside, and I'm thinking if I need a couple of the drops over chars anyway it might work out to kill the NMs and then whatever drops I can use it on at least one char. What is min raptor can be killed with?

[NynJa]

Drop rate on matamata is low but you can farm him outside over and over again we gotten a group of us all pants, belts and a few hands. Depending on how you kill it can be hard getting TH up on the magic -> physical method we use. I hear rumors inside its a guaranteed drop of 1 item no experience just rumors.

I did a couple fracture NM kill runs yesterday, and it definitely seems to be that 1 drop is 100% inside.

[kenshyn]

I can't enter fracture so would be outside, and I'm thinking if I need a couple of the drops over chars anyway it might work out to kill the NMs and then whatever drops I can use it on at least one char. What is min raptor can be killed with?

Seen Matamata killed with 3 without mnk 2hr, the raptor however takes a bit more as long as no magic is cast on him I hear he is a pussy cat but we been farming mata for a bit now my mules mule still need pants lol....