Delve

[Jem]

Would be pretty strange for them to have an identical rage mechanic for all the outside Delve NM's and then a completely different one for the Delve Bosses.

Plus our Muyingwa practice run was no different to our win. You would have expected our practice timeout run to have raged since we used all available time except it didn't. There was zero difference to our winning run apart from we did less damage (less damage purely because of us and not because of anything the mob did)

[Lah]

Can someone post a video of 1 MNK with Hundred Fists killing Mata please? Also 2 MNKs with no HF. 1 HF did just 60% yesterday.

[Taint]

Can someone post a video of 1 MNK with Hundred Fists killing Mata please? Also 2 MNKs with no HF. 1 HF did just 60% yesterday.

What weapon were you using, how was your ACC? Sounds like a gearing issue.

[Taint]

Ya'll should've really parsed everyone. I hate when people eyeball or assume. What is safe to guess is unfortunate shit happened since the difference in dps (and R.acc for 2 members) in Taint's parse and Jem's parse is really huge. I think you guys claimed all 4 rngs had pretty good sets and the only down side was 2 95 relics? (Which is a pretty big deal actually)

Also how many times has the bee even been killed by people who post in these forums and ffxiah? Feels like only 2-3 times so far with only 2 different groups?

Again there could be a rage timer past 20 mins cuz the dps to damage ratio on your rngs are pretty bad. The current trend with Delve is a bunch of gimmicks too so who knows if there's something completely random happening with the fail group and the win groups.

If you read my post. The 2 lower RNGs have very good gear, but did not gear for ACC. Obviously ACC is a huge factor on the bee. I'm sure we'll kill it next time. There are enough tweaks we can make that will add up to the ~250k more damage we need. This thread has been pretty helpful, I'll continue to post parses and will parse the entire fight next time.

[NynJa]

You need a rigors otherwise youll punch for 7-12k (no brd-brd) non crits.

[ccl]

They buffing rng + new ammo soon, I guess they want almost everyone to be able to do those by next update

[RicFlair]

If they do rage, it's a different mechanic to how everything else rages because our Tojil fight ended at the 44:30 sec mark after entering and there was no acc or damage drop off whatsoever.

Didn't you mention he started hitting harder over time? Their rage may be related to their respective zone's fracture message. Though I dunno how that'll work with the Foret zone.

[RicFlair]

If you read my post. The 2 lower RNGs have very good gear, but did not gear for ACC. Obviously ACC is a huge factor on the bee. I'm sure we'll kill it next time. There are enough tweaks we can make that will add up to the ~250k more damage we need. This thread has been pretty helpful, I'll continue to post parses and will parse the entire fight next time.

WTF, dunno why people started blaming the buffers/debuffers when their acc sets was the problem all along... Give em 99 relics and time to tweak their sets and bam that should hopefully add 50-60k extra damage and bam that should be a win. Should also get rid of the chance of it gaining some sort of gimmick or rage cuz you just kill faster .

[Jem]

We mentioned buffers/debuffers because Taint was only doing 1.2k Namas by the end whereas we were still doing 3k+.

And yeah Tojil was hitting me harder than he had before but I don't think it's rage related. I think his stats change every 25%. Like 100 > 75 he takes greatly reduced damage, 75 > 50 he takes increased damage, 50 > 0 it seems to be normal damage so it wouldn't be a stretch for it to be an offensive stat that changed.

[Eanae]

We mentioned buffers/debuffers because Taint was only doing 1.2k Namas by the end whereas we were still doing 3k+.

And yeah Tojil was hitting me harder than he had before but I don't think it's rage related. I think his stats change every 25%. Like 100 > 75 he takes greatly reduced damage, 75 > 50 he takes increased damage, 50 > 0 it seems to be normal damage so it wouldn't be a stretch for it to be an offensive stat that changed.

There was a very noticeable DT increase as the damage went down for sure. Shohas dropped from 2k range down to sub 1k by the end.

[Taint]

明日13時Tojilクリアフラグ行ってみま

[Taint]

明日13時Tojilクリアフラグ行ってみま

[Jem]

His DPS was actually higher in the second fight but yeah it's certainly possible. 3rd parse was pretty similar too but then he died part of the way through so it became irrelevant.

I just wasn't as impressed with them as I thought I would be and I couldn't see 30 Acc/Attack overturning that unless there was outside interference in the parses. I'll probably level MNK myself and test them out to get a better feel since obviously everyone plays differently.



On the job thing, I'm actually surprised at the SCH being included in the jobs they mentioned. I'm not even certain we took one along at all for our winning runs.

[Jem]

I can't speak for everyone but I know for a fact I can't read whatever that's supposed to say!

[noodles355]

I was on it for the bee attempt before the win for stuns but it was a waste of a party slot tbh

[Jem]

Yeah, I'm fairly confident we didn't have one for Tojil since I was stunning it on DRK. For Bee, I honestly can't remember our exact alliance outside a few jobs.

[dasva]

On the job thing, I'm actually surprised at the SCH being included in the jobs they mentioned. I'm not even certain we took one along at all for our winning runs.

They just trying to convince sch they are still useful after the embrava gimp

[Taint]

I can't speak for everyone but I know for a fact I can't read whatever that's supposed to say!

Site keeps messing up for me.

But its the JP group that farms Tojil shouting for a 3+ song BRD for tomorrow at 13:00

Spoiler: show

http://beast40.com/FFXI/capture.jpg

[Slycer]

They just trying to convince sch they are still useful after the embrava gimp

Only thing I could see maybe being useful on SCH is rotating through parties for Animus Minuo (and I guess Adloquium at the same time) and possibly tossing up a buffed Windstorm for that (ever-so-)slight r.acc boost that the 12 AGI would provide. It's retarded that Animus spells are still party only at this point anyway.

[Jem]

I am actually amazed that we have received so few apps after our wins given that other groups are struggling and we are recruiting. We've received a few apps from Asura but not many.

Would have thought more people would have applied since the wins are pretty desirable and the S/S isn't exactly bad either.

Guess we should have actually publicized it!