Delve

[Renzy]

Triple gloves lol... you could start selling drops/wins

We'd like to, its just hard to give up a slot when all 18 people have very important roles to play.
There's something I wanted to test but I don't have enough characters to do so because of the minimum of 3 characters required to enter. Is it possible to invite people inside a different Delve instance and they get access to loot, since it's the same zone? or does it work similar to Einherjar where that isn't possible

[spider123]

We'd like to, its just hard to give up a slot when all 18 people have very important roles to play.
There's something I wanted to test but I don't have enough characters to do so because of the minimum of 3 characters required to enter. Is it possible to invite people inside a different Delve instance and they get access to loot, since it's the same zone? or does it work similar to Einherjar where that isn't possible

I wouldn't be surprised if it's like Einherjar/Salvage where they cannot interact with one another.

[Tymon]

I was pretty tunnel visioned on MNK strategy for a while, but I need some education now.

What would the collectively assumed ideal RNG party setup be for a first Tojil kill? The most failsafe possible?

4 or 6 RNG? How many external DDs? how many PLDs?

[macross]

So does Plasma go over 1mil? Or does it cap?

Dunno I've got around 900k atm. After shark dies we will try to spam Tojil at least.

[Fondue]

Dunno I've got around 900k atm. After shark dies we will try to spam Tojil at least.

are you guys trying 5nm foret or beading? I wish we knew exactly how the cracklaw worked, would make this much less of a headache

[Doofus]

When we killed the two crabs there, we just threw muras at it and they melted.

[noodles355]

Well with crab we always just try and throw mura/formless/wildfire at it until it's melee resistance drops down and physical attacks do mad damage. But as you know that physical weakness wears off pretty fast.

Have we actually tried throwing the different types of dmg at it at the same time? Instead of trying to see-saw it in favour of melee, maybe we should try and deal a fairly equal amount of physical/magical at the same time.

[Ramzii]

I apologize if it's been asked before as I don't have enough time to search at the moment, but is there anyway to get rid of Tojil's attack down aura?

[macross]

We've been 5NM'ing for practice. Real run will be beaded.
We've got like 7 muras, but of course we don't just take all sam hehe. Think best we've had is almost 15 min remaining to mess with boss?

Anyways kill krackclaw like 20x when you farm the bead for it, and you can probably kinda figure out it's secret thing. But like doofus said, we just throw mura at it instead.

[Cairthenn]

Did not realize how dramatic of a difference DRG made in the MNK-style kill.

[Doofus]

Well with crab we always just try and throw mura/formless/wildfire at it until it's melee resistance drops down and physical attacks do mad damage. But as you know that physical weakness wears off pretty fast.

Have we actually tried throwing the different types of dmg at it at the same time? Instead of trying to see-saw it in favour of melee, maybe we should try and deal a fairly equal amount of physical/magical at the same time.

Thats kind of the point of muras >.> only ws is magical, it is balanced damage

and as far as the aura, not that i know of, it makes erasing defense down a pain, have to rely on sacrifice

and yea drg is a beast in there, angon, 2hr, and the dmg it does is hard to replace

[Ramzii]

JPs on Fenrir using RUN for Dakuwaqa. The fuck?

[noodles355]

Maybe they're trying to combat the ice spikes? Run's only good against one element I thought and shark casts two iirc.

[Renzy]

So does Plasma go over 1mil? Or does it cap?

If there is a cap, it's not 1 mil.
Someone in LS was saying how they're up to 1.2 mil plasm saved up for when we kill a Shark

[Lah]

Does it really seem fair that these drops (easy kills, but only for a handful of linkshells) should be stronger than or equivalent to RME post change? It takes a good LS 45mins to enter and get a drop, or 3 of those runs to buy with Plasm yet a relic takes 1-2months of 2 hours a day in Dynamis, an Empyrean takes shouting for VW to desperately try and get plates, or make a shit ton of gil, and don't even get me started on Mythics.

[Jem]

I see no problem with it. You can't compare soloing a Relic to killing these with 18. Look at it another way. If everyone pooled their gil from 1 Delve Boss kill, you would get 1 Relic in 45 minutes too (Artificial time cockblock aside).

[Arthars]

horn is 100% drop rate.... ingot is 1-5% at best >.>

ingot going for about 30 atm on odin, only buyable from /tells none on AH that can be bought with 15M (i tried)

edit: nvm its 20m in ah now

still no one selling horns tho in AH

[Lah]

I see no problem with it. You can't compare soloing a Relic to killing these with 18. Look at it another way. If everyone pooled their gil from 1 Delve Boss kill, you would get 1 Relic in 45 minutes too (Artificial time cockblock aside).

Fair point, in terms of the 18 people could be farming Dynamis, but then plates and alex (and the other Mythic requirements) are ridiculous compared to this, even with 18 people they would be.

[dejet]

Fair point, in terms of the 18 people could be farming Dynamis, but then plates and alex (and the other Mythic requirements) are ridiculous compared to this, even with 18 people they would be.

I have to say I do not like this new system all that much. But they are right the fights are much harder(even then VW) and thus it does seem fair to be better. SE should tone down the damn alex need for Mythic's again tho. I kinda want to do a Mythic just for the hell of it. The price of said Mythic if you do zero farming(and why are you not farming by the way? ) is 300mil if you are smart about buying at 8~12k. Seeing as you have to do other stuff that takes months and months that 300mil is really nothing. really its a month or two of fishing for most and that is doing nothing else to make gil.

The quests are long, not hard and thus they are weaker(outside some 99(2) ) that are just a pain in the ass; A billion gil? really SE do something about that shit.

Also Emps take about 2~3 days to do now lol. I got my 85 kangi in like a week and that was just a few hours a day. Ochain took a little longer (2 week? ) because of people still farming it. There is little reason not to have an emp now for a job you call your main before you enter delve.

[Jem]

horn is 100% drop rate.... ingot is 1-5% at best >.>

ingot going for about 30 atm on odin, only buyable from /tells none on AH that can be bought with 15M (i tried)

edit: nvm its 20m in ah now

still no one selling horns tho in AH

Yeah, I did 12 runs yesterday and there was only 1 S Ingot drop across the alliance. People have at least realised now and started spamming Seductive Radiance. Atm on Asura there's 9 S Ingots available (7 in Bazaar, 2 on AH) and 10 Horns available (All bazaar although some have been on AH).

It's 20-25m for S Ingot and 20m for Horn. No horns sold in the last day, 7 S Ingots sold.

I imagine S Ingots will fall back down in price now that people are actually farming them. The 20-25m pricetag seems to be purely because there was none available whereas now there is. I wouldn't mind paying 10m for one but fuck no am I paying 20-25m.