Delve

[Mafai]

As far as I know from the JPs on my server who got it to 10%~ with SAM+DRK DDs, they believe it just to be thunder magic/thunder shot. Depending on resist rate it may be beneficial to take a sch/rdm over a rdm and rotate en-thunder on DDs (preferably mnk obviously) before each 25%. Enspells last 7.5mins with perp so its possible they may last 2 shields before needing to be put back up.

Edit: When doing Tchakka I'd notice shield would someitmes come off almost instantly and other times it would last past the initial volley of thunder shots, so purely damage based seems unlikely (ofcourse it could be completely different for delve version)

Enspell is on our list of things to try too. We noticed the bee had about 30 shadows, so we are thinking its either damage based, or number of hits of thunder damage. If its number of hits, enspelled DD's should drop it instantly. If its damage it will still fall pretty damn fast with enspells (I think). I'm not sure if we will try this before we use a RNG strat with locked mobs tho.

[Doofus]

Doing damage to the shark is actually quite easy and fast, the first 30-40% was done in just a few minutes, then we sorta zombied it down a bit, never having more than a couple DD unweak or fully buffed, its just the shield we need to figure out. Does anyone have plans to try the shark over the next few days? If so what are you going to try out?

[macross]

we got 2 pops, hopefuly today will go. Should win baring any connection lost issues.

[Fodder]

Should win baring any connection lost issues.

You called that one!

[macross]

You called that one!

lol fucking DC's, least was 12% this time lol.

[pugnax179]

Did 3 tojil runs tonight, monk strat, 2 wins 1 loss. Streamed it on twitch if people want to watch the video.

http://www.twitch.tv/pugnax179/b/418846516

Not quite sure how to embed a twitch video

It doesnt help that im the pld for the run so you dont see the buffing but for tojil itself, we use brd and cor rotation and use of angon/spiritsurgejump/angon.

The run we lost, one of our DD's crashed on pull and both our schs were getting massive lag spikes apparently. Zone lags more than legion does.

[macross]

cor dc 10x, pld dies twice, 10%;; oh well

[Darkmagi]

What TP moves do people who rng burn tojil see? I'm thinking there might be some correlation between his tp moves and blistering roar going off. We saw Tyrannical Blow, Searing Serration, diaga III, and holy (II?) for the first time tonight after a roar went unstunned.

[Arthars]

how do someone dc that many times a run lol

they on ps2 or something?

[Norto]

What TP moves do people who rng burn tojil see? I'm thinking there might be some correlation between his tp moves and blistering roar going off. We saw Tyrannical Blow, Searing Serration, diaga III, and holy (II?) for the first time tonight after a roar went unstunned.

I've noticed that, too, never in any run has it used anything but Lahar, Pyrolastic Surge and Batolithic Shell for us (and roar at the appropriate %). I'm probably hoping for too much here, but did it continue to use Lahar after you saw those other moves?

[macross]

how do someone dc that many times a run lol

they on ps2 or something?

didnt really dc 10x but alot haha. Think she's on a buisness trip and tried to play from shitty hotel internet? Should have won both times but oh well. Time to farm beads again lol.

[Yeager]

Did 3 tojil runs tonight, monk strat, 2 wins 1 loss. Streamed it on twitch if people want to watch the video.

http://www.twitch.tv/pugnax179/b/418846516

Not quite sure how to embed a twitch video

It doesnt help that im the pld for the run so you dont see the buffing but for tojil itself, we use brd and cor rotation and use of angon/spiritsurgejump/angon.

The run we lost, one of our DD's crashed on pull and both our schs were getting massive lag spikes apparently. Zone lags more than legion does.

I watched the 1st run. Very well done! I've been wanting to see a video of a successful run to give me an idea of what needs to be done. Good thing I've got GEO!

I will say this though, the classical music was a nice touch! And seeing the Matamata done like that was also interesting to see. Caught me by surprise.

[Darkmagi]

I've noticed that, too, never in any run has it used anything but Lahar, Pyrolastic Surge and Batolithic Shell for us (and roar at the appropriate %). I'm probably hoping for too much here, but did it continue to use Lahar after you saw those other moves?

I believe it reverted back to normal magic/tp shortly after. I'm not sure what caused it to switch back, but it only used those moves once.

[Helel]

Does tojil always use roar on pull, or did we just get unlucky?

[Arthars]

Roar every 25% including 100

[Byrthnoth]

Has anyone successfully stunned Roar on pull? Does it remove his attack down aura?

[Jem]

Does tojil always use roar on pull, or did we just get unlucky?

I've mentioned it a few times that he always does it.

Yes it's stunnable on pull (I've personally done it) but it was when we did the RNG way so we didn't notice if it did anything. We did it hoping it would eliminate the PDT at the start (before mechanics were known) but there was no difference so didn't bother trying again.

[Renzy]

I've always aggro pulled Tojil on PLD and brought it to camp while the alliance buffs up, and it has always opened with Blistering Roar. I've always just assumed that the effects of it wore off by the time it arrived back at camp. We're carrying out some Shark attempts right now but next time we do Tojil I'll try to hit it with a Shield Bash and stun the Roar on the initial aggro.

[Botosi]

I've always aggro pulled Tojil on PLD and brought it to camp while the alliance buffs up, and it has always opened with Blistering Roar. I've always just assumed that the effects of it wore off by the time it arrived back at camp. We're carrying out some Shark attempts right now but next time we do Tojil I'll try to hit it with a Shield Bash and stun the Roar on the initial aggro.

As Renzy's Rdm for Tojils I can confirm that the effects wear off by the time it arrives back at our camp. I started out opening with Dispels which would have no effect and then started out opening with Silence instead.

[Bored]

Dealing with Kurma, am i missing something here? Kinda wondering how ppl bring him down so fast in Delve with no blms? Our strat outside includes blms to MB but obviously they wont be there inside. Ppl talking 5min zergs but how really? We've tried but had only 1 geo present took it to 50% in 5min with 4mnk but resist on harden shell, stomp kept going off slowed it way down. Is the key just to keep shell off, and reapply buffs constantly?
If someone might post how they do it inside delve with the mnk setup way id appreciate it.
Currently outside we do pt1 whm brd geo mnk drk sch/rdm for enthunder. Mnk and drk Sc light for the blms. Pt2. Whm sch/rdm brd mnk mnk geo, and pt3 blm blm brd cor Thf, 6th random job. We just have mnk drk sc, blms mb, the other mnk pt just melees to raise enthunder up. Usually takes 12-15m. We try to dispel shell but its 50/50. Geos do mag eva down, magic acc up, defense/eva down.
Just kinda baffled why its taking so long to kill.