Delve

[Taint]

After checking the parser 9 Reverberation SC have been made on the same fight for a total of 3213 damage if that matter. Aura has broken after the fifth or sixth SC I believe (it was clearly after Reverberation), it can be random or related to a total number of SC/water damage dealt.

Definitely not just water damage. We held him for 6min last night and nuked away with Water spells, Aura never dropped. SC+MB would be the next test.

[Jem]

Seriously, has anyone tried Drown? Like how Blind works for Peiste.

[Seha]

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[grevenilvec75]

SCH can skillchain.

[Jem]

How can you drown a fish?

Tojil is a fish? Or am I being whooshed?

[Seha]

My bad, remained back at Crak/Daqu talk <.<

[Slycer]

The hard part is just setting up the SC with the jobs that come, has to be between MNK DRG DRK SAM WAR I guess and not sacrifice DD. Hopefully a SAM can self SC with their chainbound JA to make it, DDs will have to hold TP and not screw it up. Hell a Wyvern can MB with Smiting Breath if Toji is already weak to water and the DRG puts on AF helm.

Scholars can create skillchains with Immanence. If this works and really disables Lahar, the whole 2 SCH stun gun method won't be as hugely important so you could break from a Stun to SC.

Edit: grev said it already above, replied before checking last page.

[Tymon]

You would want to stun Barolithic Shell after you take the aura down, correct?

Or is it Roar that puts it back up?

[Jem]

Roar every 25% puts it up I assume. Hard to tell as you would have to drop it first which nobody really does.

What moves have we not seen it do? I assume whatever it hasn't done is what replaces Lahar. I don't think I've seen it do Volcanic Stasis. If that is the replacement move, it isn't that much more desirable as it's going to tear the buffs off your melees so would still need stunning. Not at home to check logs though.

I think the Bee's alternating moves pending on Aura are Incisive Denouement / Incisive Apotheosis.

Shark seems to be Marine Mayhem / Tidal Guillotine.

[Tymon]

I have seen it do Volcanic Stasis, but I can't recall if the aura was up at the time. It probably was.

Technically those are the only two abilities that are fire related. They could both be locked.

[dasva]

Does the WKR version do the aura thing on pull too?

[Helel]

He's just going to put the aura back up every 25%. I don't really see the point in trying to remove it unless it's extremely easy to do. Can stun blistering roar, but it doesn't prevent aura from going back up. Same for bee. Can stun droning whirlwind, but blink aura still goes up. Although, every time SE doesn't like the way we kill things, the mob gets buffed or abilities get nerfed (AV), so it'll be interesting to see what they do in the update.

[Jem]

I hope they make them all immune to stun.

[Tymon]

Me too, then I can quit without any reservations.

[Motenten]

The hard part is just setting up the SC with the jobs that come, has to be between MNK DRG DRK SAM WAR I guess and not sacrifice DD. Hopefully a SAM can self SC with their chainbound JA to make it, DDs will have to hold TP and not screw it up. Hell a Wyvern can MB with Smiting Breath if Toji is already weak to water and the DRG puts on AF helm.

Shijin Spiral is fusion/reverberation.

Drakesbane is fusion/transfixion.

Since fusion > fusion does nothing, Drakesbane > Shijin Spiral would be transfixion > reverberation for an easy reverb skillchain. Very likely to happen with a Ryu drg, and easy enough for any other drg. If the magic burst isn't required, it barely requires a pause.

If you want to ensure more skillchains, can use Howling Fist / Ascetic's Fury (both of which have attack modifiers) > Shijin Spiral as well.

[Tymon]

I would test this myself but no Tojil attempts for at least a few days.

Very interested in seeing if SC+MB brings it down every time.

[Motenten]

Would also be amusing if a magic burst'ed Lunge was nearly guaranteed to drop the aura (assuming odds vary based on number of attempts/damage done/damage type, or something like that).

[Ophannus]

Might be a Reverberation SC timed while its charging a TP move(which is why it took 6 tries?). Similar to how Tier VI VW were only staggered for 2-3 seconds on a red proc and 10-15 on a white proc instead of the usual 10-30 for either unless you proc during a spell or TP move. Maybe using Reverb as it's casting or readying a TP move breaks the aura. Also wouldnt the SCHs need to be stunning other TP moves anyway? Most of his TP moves are pretty bad, not just Lahar. I have a sneaking suspicion it's a timed Reverberation SC during a Spell/TP move. My justification for that is: 1) Tojil has a lonnnnnng charge time for TP moves and has virtually no Fast Cast on his spells. 2) Matsui said before that he wants players to be smarter and be more skilled than before. Timing a SC a few seconds before a TP move might be just the new gimmick for Delve Bosses.

[Jem]

None of his other moves are that bad other than Lahar. You shouldn't be dying to Tojil unless you're weakened and getting levelled.

[ccl]

1) Tojil has a lonnnnnng charge time for TP moves

This it not true, a lot of people that could stun legion cannot stun Tojil due to it being too fast.