Delve

[Malithar]

Do you guys not have any 3/4 song bards? its not required or anything, it just makes things super easier.

LIke, are your sch's manually stunning TP moves? are dd's eating sushi, at most pizza? were no LS's clearing legion? i would assume a legion group should make the transition with little difficulty.
Voice comms should be almost required if you cant get organized enough to even get to tojil with 15min to spare.

Can only speak for my LS as far as what we have. Brds are covered, 2x 4 song Brds, 2x skill capped/merited Geos, 4x well geared Mnks (no Oax obviously) Senbaak Drk, a few decent-well geared Drgs (no Ryu or Bee polearm), competant Whms, Rdm, stunning Schs, etc. Voice chat is there. The LS does do Legion as well. Think most of our issues are coming from experience with it, as we only do Delve content 2, sometimes 3 nights a week for a couple hours. We only started on Morimar 2-3 weeks ago (prior to that, the LS was working towards Bee with a Rng strat). Within those 2-3 weeks, we went from not clearing 5x NMs to clearing all 5 and having some time on Tojil. We just gotta refine and keep going with it really.

Our major hanging point now is Kurma really. The other 4 NMs are down under 20 min, closer to 15 when everyone's on their A game. Kurma alone is taking us 15+ minutes though, sometimes closer to 20. I dunno leadership's position on changing the strat, but I know Mnk/Run or Rdm/Sch (or a third Sch as /Rdm) are all options to help burn him down quicker. I've seen mention of using Embrava on Eft, but really we don't seem to have issues with dispels (weather outta luck or cause of stuns, idk) so maybe burning an Embrava on Kurma might help. We'll see where it all goes, but I'd like to think we'll have it down pat enough to have him down within the next two weeks.

[Darkmagi]

Just keep kurma dispelled, songs up, chaos roll on, and kurma should drop more than quick enough unless DDs are doing a really bad job.

[Shenrien]

Spam dispel on Kurma and that will greatly speed up your kill speed on him, our GEOs are capable of landing dispel on him now since they did their adjustment, bards have no issue landing finale, so I can't see his shell ever being a problem for people anymore really, GEO didn't have Tamaxchi until after the event had ended lastnight.

[kenshyn]

Kurma was a prime example of fail on shiva the melee way outside guys was hitting at less than 40% some as low as 20% rate during pick up runs and could only get the win with BLM method...

[Shadida]

When people use the term "DPS" in this thread, is that a number that comes from the scoreboard plugin, or from KParser? I can't find it in KParser...

[Cairthenn]

It's under the performance tab in KParser.

[kenshyn]

Its a shame many use parsers to just say I did x more damage when the other data is so much more telling kills me to hear some one state they hit/acc is okay and I check and they are hitting less than 50% how is that okay. Sorry off my soap box...

[Shadida]

The case for parsing on these events is to keep people honest in our LS, if your acc is low I'm letting you know about it. In /tell if I like you

It's under the performance tab in KParser.

Thanks very much!

[Taint]

Embrava + Dispels will take him under 10min consistently for a new group.

[Yeager]

Do you Embrava Kurma? That was a big time gain for us.

DDs should just use sushi IMO unless you have extremely organized buffs. Going from 95% to 85% ACC is a big DPS loss even if its just for a minute, it also keeps ACC capped while DDs are in Hybrid or full PDT sets during Raptor, Kurma or a spammy Peiste.

Are DDs dieing? 5 NMs should take 30min tops even with Rigor MNKs.

Our first few wins were 10-12minutes.

Embrava: Yes, we had 1 of our SCH use Embrava for Kurma. This Kurma just got spammy with Testudo Tremor and some DD got killed. They were getting stunned for the most part, but it would just come back with another Testudo Tremor. All SCH were x2 March and Hasted. The other 2 SCH used Embrava for Tojil.

DDs: Most use Sushi, some use Pizza. Our BRD rotations do seem a little bit slow with the invites, not sure why. But they all have x2 March, x2 Madrigal, and x2 Minuet. CORs also put up Chaos/Hunter's Rolls. The 2 GEOs use Geo-Frailty and Geo-Torpor as well. So I'm not sure what the problem is with our kill speed (or lack thereof) on Tojil.

Death: DDs were dying only after healers started running out of MP keeping everyone alive (a problem that arose due to long kill time) and thus, the wipe.

[kenshyn]

The case for parsing on these events is to keep people honest in our LS, if your acc is low I'm letting you know about it. In /tell if I like you



Thanks very much!

It really helps to see things like crit rate and buffs and debuffs if someone isn't hitting certain numbers it could be outside causes that they can't do anything about super paralyze, petrification and the like. Its great to see how your healing and support are doing as well love the recovery tab.

[kenshyn]

Embrava: Yes, we had 1 of our SCH use Embrava for Kurma. This Kurma just got spammy with Testudo Tremor and some DD got killed. They were getting stunned for the most part, but it would just come back with another Testudo Tremor. All SCH were x2 March and Hasted. The other 2 SCH used Embrava for Tojil.

DDs: Most use Sushi, some use Pizza. Our BRD rotations do seem a little bit slow with the invites, not sure why. But they all have x2 March, x2 Madrigal, and x2 Minuet. CORs also put up Chaos/Hunter's Rolls. The 2 GEOs use Geo-Frailty and Geo-Torpor as well. So I'm not sure what the problem is with our kill speed (or lack thereof) on Tojil.

Death: DDs were dying only after healers started running out of MP keeping everyone alive (a problem that arose due to long kill time) and thus, the wipe.

Slows kills normally tend to be melee acc issues have any parses?

[Cairthenn]

Our time-saver on Kurma that was much more effective than Embrava was having the CORs sub DNC.

Slow Kurma kills are generally terrible pDIF due to no buffs rather than low acc.

[kenshyn]

Our time-saver on Kurma that was much more effective than Embrava was having the CORs sub DNC.

Doing? Isn't popping in my head how /dnc changes it heals? steps?

[Taint]

Doing? Isn't popping in my head how /dnc changes it heals? steps?

Def down Steps


Our best Kurma is 2:11. DRG/DNC for steps, BRDs sing March/Min. Embrava. When DDs get Def down they need to sit in Hybrid/DT sets until its dispeled. Nothing from Kurma should kill anyone if they play correctly.

[kenshyn]

Our time-saver on Kurma that was much more effective than Embrava was having the CORs sub DNC.

Slow Kurma kills are generally terrible pDIF due to no buffs rather than low acc.

I have parsed outside fights on Shiva where rigor mnks where less than 40% acc on kurma actually >.>

[Yeager]

Slows kills normally tend to be melee acc issues have any parses?

I don't believe anyone in the group runs kParser, to my knowledge anyhow. But Acc. may have been an issue. I don't know for sure though.

[Dammerung]

If you don't know if acc was an issue, acc was an issue. If you can't 5/5 by 30min mark, you have DPS problems that need to be fixed to kill Tojil before you run out of stuns even if you bead Kurma.

Make sure your RDM is doing Gravity II on everything.

[kenshyn]

I don't believe anyone in the group runs kParser, to my knowledge anyhow. But Acc. may have been an issue. I don't know for sure though.

Really need someone to run kparser it will clear up pretty quick any issues and allow peeps to change accordingly really its a great tool for that. Just helps to see if you have the necessary dps to beat it. I almost always forget to stop my parser runs all night lol. I never talk about it game but I run parse almost every day just to judge my gear sets I believe spreadsheets only half the picture...

[Yeager]

If you don't know if acc was an issue, acc was an issue. If you can't 5/5 by 30min mark, you have DPS problems that need to be fixed to kill Tojil before you run out of stuns even if you bead Kurma.

Make sure your RDM is doing Gravity II on everything.

Only reason why I said "I don't know for sure" is because I'm one of the two GEOs in the group. I'm hanging back casting Geo-Frailty and Indi-Focus. lol