Delve

[Doombringer]

so... i MAY have just mpked an entire dakuwaqa PUG... i feel like shit about it but hand to god the terms "dia" "DoT" "sleep" etc. never came up when i was being briefed.

but more to the point, if i'd just known, i wouldn't have NEEDED to be told. so i'm curious, what are some of the popular strategies for the different delve bosses? is there a cliff notes anywhere? the wiki doesn't really get into it.

i have a basic knowledge of how the nms work, stuff like "don't ws the cricket or it's evasion goes banaynays" or "don't magic the raptor because it'll go apeshit" but "we're gonna sleep dakawaka at 26%" hit me out of left field. maybe that's common knowledge? maybe i'm dumb? but yah. this is as much a question of the metagame as anything so... any tips?

cuz... i don't wanna do that again. they ended up being relatively cool about it, and i obviously won't make the SAME mistake again, but i'd hate to stumble into some other fucking newb landmine :\

[dasva]

Actually just did a run we still magicked raptor but kept it stun locked and people had decent pdt sets. Worked ok

[Tymon]

using magic on the raptor is in no way even remotely a group wipe. It might kill someone easier, but nothing more.

edit: this actually made me think of something pretty randomly..

Tojil sleeps, right? Is it reliable? As in, does it last somewhat long?

[Diomer]

so... i MAY have just mpked an entire dakuwaqa PUG... i feel like shit about it but hand to god the terms "dia" "DoT" "sleep" etc. never came up when i was being briefed.

but more to the point, if i'd just known, i wouldn't have NEEDED to be told. so i'm curious, what are some of the popular strategies for the different delve bosses? is there a cliff notes anywhere? the wiki doesn't really get into it.

i have a basic knowledge of how the nms work, stuff like "don't ws the cricket or it's evasion goes banaynays" or "don't magic the raptor because it'll go apeshit" but "we're gonna sleep dakawaka at 26%" hit me out of left field. maybe that's common knowledge? maybe i'm dumb? but yah. this is as much a question of the metagame as anything so... any tips?

cuz... i don't wanna do that again. they ended up being relatively cool about it, and i obviously won't make the SAME mistake again, but i'd hate to stumble into some other fucking newb landmine :\

Oh you definitely MPKed us; we do Daku so often that if it wasn't said in /tells to you, it's just because it's easy to forget some small details when you're used to doing something over and over again where basically everyone knows what they're doing. That being said, half of that group was outside linkshell and usually we don't even like to try shark with that many outside LS because of things like that.

[Doombringer]

Oh you definitely MPKed us; we do Daku so often that if it wasn't said in /tells to you, it's just because it's easy to forget some small details when you're used to doing something over and over again where basically everyone knows what they're doing.

yah i'm not trying to blame your guy at all. he's a cool guy and he readily dove on that hand grenade for me.

hell, with stuff like this going on, if he said he DID tell me, i'd believe him. i just don't want people to think i am receiving instructions, and then proceeding to disregard them and piss in the pool.

plus i feel kinda bad that i didn't "just know". but i don't know WHAT i don't know. unknown unknowns you know <.<

which is why i'm asking here if there's any other potential fuckups i might end up stepping in down the line. or is delve just to new for there to be any kind of standardized strategies?

[NynJa]

hey he linked my missing chatlog packets, I'm famous :D

[cdgreg]

delve stuff

Here's a few things that I prioritize, although beware, different LSs do things differently:
We sleep shark at 26%ish, so I dia up until the 50% mark where he removes all his enfeebs, then post 25%. Also the only mobs I silence in that zone are pugil to avoid breakga and the urangite. As for raptor I do non-damaging magic (slow/para/etc) because I was under the impression unlike dia, those will not cause him to 1 shot people. I prioritize silence on tojil in terms of enfeebs. Dispel sharks att boost and say when it is off in ls or p chat after verve. I sabo dia 3 for duration purposes. I prioritize haste on SCH over basically everything else. Sorry for a choppy post, but nothing else really jumps out in my mind. I haven't done bee yet, primarily RDM or WHM on Tojil/shark.

oh for the love of christ, don't stand inside 20 when killing the krab, annoys the living piss out of me when all the mages get hit with venom shower.

[dmoneys]

Ok 2 questions if anyone can help me out . We been killing 1-5 with 10-20mins left but we only get tojil down to around 38-40% . what's the fastest way to get aura down and how are the cor landing lightshot? I'm no cor but ours say they can't ever land it and I'm on sch so I don't watch what they do most times I'm wacthing for stun. But if someone could post a cor set for lightshot. And help with aura cause that seems to be our biggest problem and the fact that the first 25% seems really slow to me

[Seha]

If it says "Light shot missed" the enhanced dia landed, the problem is if it says "No effect", but that usually means that dia wasn't on and thus there's nothing to enhance. Light shot sleep lands easily for me on t1-5, rarely on Tojil itself though. This is the set I use for Light and Dark shots:

Chatoyant/Reaver+1/Arma/Omphalos
W mask/Arctier/Lifestorm/Psystorm
Mirke/Schutzen/Moepapa/Balrahn
Navarch/Aquiline/Thurandaut/Navarch

...if only Gunslinger would drop ;;

[Fireon]

Tojil's first 25% he is vulnerable to magic damage, so have all of your monks use formless strikes until 74%

As for the aura, I heard yesterday that it's taken down by a certain element of magic for every quarter of its health. I can't be sure on the order but I'm fairly certain it's wind > fire > water > light. Doing magic damage of those elements breaks the aura until he puts it back up again with another Blistering Roar, or so I'm told.

Edit: me and some friends took him down just last night for the first time, and we didn't bother trying to remove the aura. So it is possible, just difficult.

[Asymptotic]

Tojil's first 25% he is vulnerable to magic damage, so have all of your monks use formless strikes until 74%

As for the aura, I heard yesterday that it's taken down by a certain element of magic for every quarter of its health. I can't be sure on the order but I'm fairly certain it's wind > fire > water > light. Doing magic damage of those elements breaks the aura until he puts it back up again with another Blistering Roar, or so I'm told.

Edit: me and some friends took him down just last night for the first time, and we didn't bother trying to remove the aura. So it is possible, just difficult.

I don't think anyone actually bothers trying to remove the aura.

[Tymon]

It's definitely not fire for the second phase. It's wind at the start for sure.

[dmoneys]

If it says "Light shot missed" the enhanced dia landed, the problem is if it says "No effect", but that usually means that dia wasn't on and thus there's nothing to enhance. Light shot sleep lands easily for me on t1-5, rarely on Tojil itself though. This is the set I use for Light and Dark shots:

Chatoyant/Reaver+1/Arma/Omphalos
W mask/Arctier/Lifestorm/Psystorm
Mirke/Schutzen/Moepapa/Balrahn
Navarch/Aquiline/Thurandaut/Navarch

...if only Gunslinger would drop ;;

Ok so even if light shot misses the dia will still upgrade? Is that what u mean cause they say it misses not that it has no effect. And thanks for the item set

[Seha]

"Light shot misses" means that sleep didn't land, however it was able to enhance the effect of dia.

[Cairthenn]

How is a DRG winning Dakuwaqa parse? How much damage are they doing, exactly? I generally do 200k (I'm at about 390dps according to KParser) and I'm never near first.

[Squah]

So, after 99ing all of our guns, we went back for another round of bees. First run we completely trashed our record for fastest Delveboss clear time, 3:17 seconds from 100% to 0 on Muyingwa with 3 99guns and a 99bow (that parsed about 60% of the gun RNG's damage)

If you don't have the resources to do it RNG style, find a way. Find friends, ask them to come, because it really is the easiest way to take it down. Strategy unchanged from what I posted last time.

[Arthars]

muyingwa is the easiest boss, there is 0 danger of wiping to it ever. The "time taken" for scorpion and mastop is actually the main boss in the zone lol

u dont really have to do it rng style, but bringing a few can speed it up(the new bullets r the cheapest relics themselves lol)... as long you got enough time after mastop + scorpion melee-style, then ur fine on muyingwa even w/o ranger, just that it takes longer burning last 25% but there is absolutely 0 danger at all.

no one can ever wipe to it i think. infact i have never read anyone wiping to it...

if you wanna do it first win, basically just seal 1 scorpion and you are 99.99999999999% already won the zone

[Diomer]

How is a DRG winning Dakuwaqa parse? How much damage are they doing, exactly? I generally do 200k (I'm at about 390dps according to KParser) and I'm never near first.

[Arthars]

Drg dmg pretty cool on daqu subbing sam. But its not really a true reflection of awesomeness due to mnk subbing run. Our drg was always 2nd or 3rd and first for once.

Ima try drk on it tmr :D

[Cairthenn]

Oh, your MNKs are quite low.