Delve

[dmoneys]

Trying for tojil win still and wondering how long is it taking others to kill on first kill and about how long it takes to get 100-75 off and 75-50%. We have benn killing 1-5 with about 10_15mins and fighting toji for 6-8+ mins we only get to 40-50% and that's with no missed stuns. I think some of our dd not doing as much as they should. So any help we be nice we should kill soon but trying to fix anything if we can

[Fake]

yea was mata, some of us spam him for lixers etc so we have like this huge surplus of em and they sell slow on ah so we figure why not...lol

Because it results in some ~12k less plasm at the end of the run and the mob it self takes 30 seconds to die and can be prepped while raptor/eft is being killed.

[Hermaeus]

Because it results in some ~12k less plasm at the end of the run and the mob it self takes 30 seconds to die and can be prepped while raptor/eft is being killed.

20 k actually and we were running with a few members new to the ls and what not so we wanted a little more time for the to get the jist of nms inside vs outside.

[Michelob]

It's not 20k.

[Byrthnoth]

13.75k

[Fake]

500 + 1000 + 1500 + 3000 + 3750 + 60000 = 69750

500 + 1000 + 2250 + 3000 + 50000 = 56750

So 13k less

[Taint]

Trying for tojil win still and wondering how long is it taking others to kill on first kill and about how long it takes to get 100-75 off and 75-50%. We have benn killing 1-5 with about 10_15mins and fighting toji for 6-8+ mins we only get to 40-50% and that's with no missed stuns. I think some of our dd not doing as much as they should. So any help we be nice we should kill soon but trying to fix anything if we can

If formless wears before its 74% you have a major DD problem. DDs were ultimately our problem before our first win. 8x% hit rates, poorly using JA delay (esp during 100fist) and overrall poor play style.

[Hermaeus]

thing is if you take the multiplyer that yall did then when u do 5/5 +Boss then youy saying you shouldnt get 70k? if we would have went 5/5 we would have got 70 k but we beaded mata hence the 20k loss

[Squah]

Tojil will be the sixth NM killed. 10000x6 = 60000

The remaining 3k~ is the difference in killing Kurma/Peiste with a larger multiplier.

[Hermaeus]

thats my point by not killing mata we lost out on 20k, if we would have then we would have gotten full multiplyer

[Fake]

thats my point by not killing mata we lost out on 20k, if we would have then we would have gotten full multiplyer

By not killing mata you lose out on exactly 13k, I don't really see what you don't get. The multiplier goes x1 x2 x3 etc on base kill value, t1-3 are 500, t4-5 are 750, boss is 10k

[grevenilvec75]

We found major ACC issues on our first practice Tojil, so that's most likely something you want to look into.

[Hermaeus]

are you stupid or just cant read???? both taint and i said it if we would have killed mata then tojil we would have gotten 70k!!! by not doing mata with the other 4 nms and tojil we lost 20k

[Fake]

are you stupid or just cant read???? both taint and i said it if we would have killed mata then tojil we would have gotten 70k!!! by not doing mata with the other 4 nms and tojil we lost 20k

Evidently you are stupid, if you kill all 5NM you get 60k (since the multiplier will be at x6 and boss gives 10k base) from the boss like I just said. Which results in a total of 69,750 for the full run and people round that up to 70k

Most people have learned this level of math by the time they are 10.

[Terrestrialrage]

500 + 1000 + 1500 + 3000 + 3750 + 60000 = 69750

500 + 1000 + 2250 + 3000 + 50000 = 56750

So 13k less

This math is correct, there is nothing left to argue.

Trying for tojil win still and wondering how long is it taking others to kill on first kill and about how long it takes to get 100-75 off and 75-50%. We have benn killing 1-5 with about 10_15mins and fighting toji for 6-8+ mins we only get to 40-50% and that's with no missed stuns. I think some of our dd not doing as much as they should. So any help we be nice we should kill soon but trying to fix anything if we can

Formless should be clicked off at 75%, if Formless is wearing before 75% youre definitely slow on damage. Your Mnks have to up their game. Are you rotating Brds + Cors? GEOs capped skill and bolstering at correct times? Have a Senbaak Drk + well-geared Drg to push through the different phases? The right setup is just as important on a first kill as strategy is, since Mnks dont have Oatixurs yet.

[Squah]

are you stupid or just cant read???? both taint and i said it if we would have killed mata then tojil we would have gotten 70k!!! by not doing mata with the other 4 nms and tojil we lost 20k

Holy fuckstick.

Beading Mata:
1(500)+2(500)+3(750)+4(750)+5(10000)
500+1000+2250+3000+50000 = 56750

Not beading Mata:
1(500)+2(500)+3(500)+4(750)+5(750)+6(10000)
500+1000+1500+3000+3750+60000 = 69750

Difference of 13000. Not 20000.

Taint knows what he's talking about but make sure you do before you call somebody stupid.


Edit: beaten because I was salty enough to have to make that post from my phone

[Gokku]

Nah brah 1+1 don't equal 2 it's obviously 3 because I said so.

[Tymon]

I have encountered a lot of situations where people, usually pick ups, have their food wear on the Tojil fight and never put it back up, flooring their accuracy.

If your people are doing this, fix it. I know it sounds like "is the computer on" but it seems to me like a lot of people actually do this.

[Therin]

We found major ACC issues on our first practice Tojil, so that's most likely something you want to look into.

You need to shoot for 630 accuracy before buffs or food.

This is easily attainable on any job, even before skill weapons come into play.

[grevenilvec75]

Yes I know.

The guy was asking for suggestions, and i told him what we had trouble with.