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**Cairthenn** · 2013-07-26 15:06

Still no progress on Muyingwa DT for the most part, but we've got the melee method down reliably. Believe this is our best kill itself as DRG DRG SAM SAM MNK MNK for DD, and our zone clear time was 36 minutes for 5/5 and boss. If you don't get all 3 DT, you should have no issues once you've got the NMs down. Ignore the SAM who forgot sushi, lol.

**Diomer** · 2013-07-26 15:13

Anyone else not surprised it took Siren that long to get an NA Tojil win (if it was actually the first) when this guy is that fucking stupid?

**Systematicchaos** · 2013-07-26 16:08

If, in theory, my group wanted to animation stun Tojil's WSs, and also log stun Kaustra/Meteor, approximately how long would we have to down him before stuns started resisting (about 40 stuns?)?

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-07-26 16:11

We did 46 stuns before he started to resist, but I'm not convinced that it's number of stuns vs. just being 10 minutes from fight start.

**Taint** · 2013-07-26 16:15

Originally Posted by Systematicchaos

If, in theory, my group wanted to animation stun Tojil's WSs, and also log stun Kaustra/Meteor, approximately how long would we have to down him before stuns started resisting (about 40 stuns?)?

Our longest streaks were in the 12min range (before Oat) but we don't stun Pyroclastic Surge. Most common time thrown around is 10min but even when stuns resist you can still power through for the win since its not a flat 100% resist wall.

**Systematicchaos** · 2013-07-26 16:20

Thanks for the quick replies. Just not sure I trust log stunning for us, especially with the amount of lag that can be generated in that area.

**Rhiannon2** · 2013-07-26 19:00

Originally Posted by Squah

Holy fuckstick.

Beading Mata:
1(500)+2(500)+3(750)+4(750)+5(10000)
500+1000+2250+3000+50000 = 56750

Not beading Mata:
1(500)+2(500)+3(500)+4(750)+5(750)+6(10000)
500+1000+1500+3000+3750+60000 = 69750

Difference of 13000. Not 20000.

Taint knows what he's talking about but make sure you do before you call somebody stupid.

Edit: beaten because I was salty enough to have to make that post from my phone

I think he was counting the 50,000 from his screenshot but he forgot that he earned ~10k Plasm from the other 4 NM's. That's probably why he thought 50,000 vs. 70,000.

Not that I want to save face for him because, man, that was a shitty attitude he displayed. But that's likely what happened.

**Darkmagi** · 2013-07-26 19:27

He's also been showing a shitty attitude over at FFXIAH. Bragging about getting the first NA win on your server(far too late, I really don't see how people took this long) while having to buy oatixurs from JPs to do so isn't really classy.

**Taint** · 2013-07-26 21:06

Trying so Aura removal on Tojil.

Wind worked > Light did not > Dark did not > Water worked

**Fwahm** · 2013-07-26 21:19

Going by elemental superiority, maybe it's Wind > Earth > Lightning > Water. Probably another no go, but eh.

**Ophannus** · 2013-07-26 21:33

Is it damage or # of attacks? Someone said a while back they removed it with a water 1? Also I think light damage might have something to do with Colkhab/Muywinga. When fighting Colkhab I noticed the only times his aura went down was when he was either hit with a dia or a flash. Could be light based attacks/debuffs that do it...

**Tymon** · 2013-07-26 21:59

I guarantee you Light works for the second phase. I don't know if it's a guaranteed thing, but it definitely does work with Light. Enough to work 7 consecutive times with only 1 /run using only Lux.

**Taint** · 2013-07-26 22:11

Just went again. First attempt was iceday

Lightening day
Wind worked > Fire didn't > Earth didn't > Water worked

**GeneyusTitan** · 2013-07-26 22:14

I don't do a whole hell of a lot of Tojil anymore. But I never failed doing both elements of the level 2 skillchain for each phase Frag > Fusion > Gravitation > Distortion. /run can keep both up.

The difference in results may be that the phase is 1 of 2 elements based on those properties? I'm not positive, but it has worked for me every time.

**Tymon** · 2013-07-27 01:03

Originally Posted by GeneyusTitan

I don't do a whole hell of a lot of Tojil anymore. But I never failed doing both elements of the level 2 skillchain for each phase Frag > Fusion > Gravitation > Distortion. /run can keep both up.

The difference in results may be that the phase is 1 of 2 elements based on those properties? I'm not positive, but it has worked for me every time.

This fits, actually.

**Detzu** · 2013-07-27 02:14

Originally Posted by Taint

Trying so Aura removal on Tojil.

Wind worked > Light did not > Dark did not > Water worked

Is it only elemental SC or would RUN's /ja work?

**Detzu** · 2013-07-27 02:14

In all the groups I went with we never tried to remove aura.

**GeneyusTitan** · 2013-07-27 03:47

/run works and can keep up two elements at once.

**Taint** · 2013-07-27 08:46

Originally Posted by Detzu

Is it only elemental SC or would RUN's /ja work?

Was doing it /run. I was the only mnk/run and it took a good 10% of health just to drop the Aura and that was with 2 runes of the same type up. I never tried 2 different elements up.

**Jeryhn** · 2013-07-27 10:49

afaik, /RUN should only inflict the same elemental damage as the last rune you harbor on the Enspell effect, so using multiple rune elements would only be good for increasing resistance rate to multiple elements... Unless something funky is happening that I don't know about with jobs who have offhand hits like MNK.

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