Delve

[Rocl]

"The Spring has returned to your step"

As far I was aware, that message is specific to fighting the Scorpion and an indication of debuffs wearing off or some such malarkey? That's the only time I've seen the msg is fighting him anyway. It also happens in the Field. However, it is present in a shitton of zones so it could be a generic Delve NM msg yes*

Gwyn posted it earlier with the full dialogue of the Anomaly Expert, but I think it might be worth repeating:

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You can't be serious... ≺Unknown Parameter (Type: 80) 1≻≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻6≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻? H-how could a nitwit such as you possibly have...?≺Prompt≻

I must say that you've surrrpassed my expectations. A nicer person might congrrratulate you.≺Prompt≻

You're “worthy” of the moniker “adventurerrr”...or was it “pioneer” now?≺Prompt≻

If you're feeling lucky, you can try your hand at one of the other fractures. If you did it once, then you might even be able to do it again...against all my expectations.≺Prompt≻

(Yes, yes...with such command of the aetherrr, ≺Multiple Choice (Player Gender)≻[he/she]...)≺Prompt≻

H-huh? Those fractures must be wreaking havoc on your ears. I didn't say a damned thing, and I'll rrrake your face if you say otherwise!≺Prompt≻

Look who came crrrawling back in fail... What!? ≺Unknown Parameter (Type: 80) 1≻≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻6≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻!? You did it again!?≺Prompt≻

How could you possibly have accomplished such a feat, what with those chicken bones you call legs?≺Prompt≻

And if that weren't eye-popping enough, those inventorrr folk came barreling over here talking about new items they've discovered in exchange for mweya plasm. Like I care about such things!≺Prompt≻

You must be drrripping with the stuff by now, so pay them a visit before they come back to assault my ears with their meaningless drivel.≺Prompt≻

You've come this far--fancy yourself up to the challenge of explorrring the third cave for me, or are you going to moblin your way out of it?≺Prompt≻

Enough pawing around! Get off your haunches and... Huh? You actually got ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻6≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻!? Unbelievable!≺Prompt≻

I chalked the first two times up to serendipity, but to have done it again... Yes, my rrresearch will advance by leaps and bounds!≺Prompt≻

At first I thought you were so wet behind the earrrs that I could water my plants with your face, but this is something else. You've somehow managed to acquire all three treasures!≺Prompt≻

I suppose I owe you something--a leftoverrr from my machinations. I have no need of it.≺Prompt≻

Did I say “machinations”? No, I don't believe I did, and I'll rrrake your face if you say otherwise!≺Prompt≻

Let's just reach in the bag and see what it is...≺Prompt≻

Yes, isn't this just amazing?≺Prompt≻

You've prrroven far more useful than I imagined. If you bring me three more treasures I'm sure I can find something else to give you. Just be quicker on the uptake next time!≺Prompt≻

It looks like 1 Fracture win will unlock/progress something later on; 2 Fracture wins opens up more things to be exchanged with plasm (maybe/prob Naakual things?) and a 3rd win lets the Expert trade you something herself (maybe/prob Naakual things?)

btw if I had to guess, 5\116 would be Cirdas [U] as it has both the Delve messages and the star-Skirmish messages

[Tachi]

Final stats for the Yaskomo's Pole Type:B are
Pet: MAB+13
INT+10
MND+10

[Cream Soda]

Stats on Manibozho Jerkin? Or do I still need to spam Pil for toci?

[jimbobsonofgod]

hit 104600 plasma

[TacoTaru]

For Shijin, normal won't beat Toci's, full aug'd Type A path would. If Type C is DEX Aug, it would too, but you wouldn't do that path. Can't tell you in betweens since I haven't messed with adding those to see where they fall. Keep in my this is all assumptions on the light armor augs being universal from what we see on the hands.

tl;dr
If all my assumptions are right, Toci's will end up losing to a full augmented Type A/C, but you're looking at a lot of gil to get there.

[Slycer]

I will do a formal update later including which paths are attributed to which items, but check this for consistency with known info please:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/User:Slycer/Upgrades

Let me know if you can fill in gaps, verify unverified info, etc. There's at least one missing track with HP as the main buff for the shield.

[Creelo]

Finally created a BG account!!

For the sake of knowledge and satisfying my own curiosity, I decided to go ahead and do the Type C "Acc" path on my Bokwus Gloves... The second augment is Att and as of Rank 4, they have Acc+9 and Att+5. Should know by the end of today what the third augment is...

[Buffy]

Welcome to BG Creelo, good to see you.

[Gwynplaine]

Took a while to figure out which areas were the entrance but I managed to make some progress on maps (NOT yet completed). The Ceizak portion is pretty much set I'm just not 100% sure where the border of that east tunnel is. First section of Morimar is done, but only a bit of Foret. If the walls aren't shown it's because I'm not sure if there is one so feel free to give feedback on walls etc. Keep in mind that this is a composite map (thanks to Slycer) so you can't really use it in reference to X-Y positions in game. All the little parts are broken up amongst like 25 in-game maps and they almost all take place on H-# or G-# grids. So telling your party you're at H-7 is pretty useless because every map is gonna be at H-7.



You can probably tell just by looking at that Ceizak sucks for farming plasm, it's extremely long and the mobs are far apart making long inefficient pulls. Morimar is the best area to farm plasm because the first section is one big room with a small side room with mobs. Foret is second best and has a few more mobs not as far apart as Ceizak.

[RicFlair]

Thinking of leading a shout group to get the 2 KIs from fortet tomorrow. Given based on what I've read, is it right to assume the Orobon and Pugil seem to be zergable within minutes and both have no gimmicky unique tp move that's dangerous? A lot of delve mobs seem to have their own unique tp move that only delve NMs have, I'm guessing these 2 just have Krabkatoa and Cirien-Croin tp moves?

If that's the case then sounds like it'll be a breeze assuming we don't get charmed from Orobon .

[Yugl]

The Ceizak NM#2 area should probably continue a bit more than listed. You definitely can make that U-turn to the east side of the map. I"ve seen the NM pop there even.

[Theytak]

would 70 MAB?

Could add 70 acc/atkMAcc/Matk and we've just not noticed.

Mmm, I wondered about that, honestly. 70 str/dex/vit etc isn't exactly a huge boon relative to those weapons. I mean it's huge compared to anything pup's ever gotten, but when you consider everything else, I can't see it being THAT huge of a change. I wouldn't really be shocked if it was +70 across the board, but someone who actually posts here (as opposed to hearing shit second hand, or needing to have a middleman) would need to get it and do the tests to make sure. If the thing gives at all significant amounts of anything other than stats, it should be relatively obvious for physical stuff with a short parse (damage dealt, damage taken, evasion, accuracy, etc), though we'd still probably need a bigger one just to nail down the exact amounts, and spells should be a complete joke to test if you just take the puppet out somewhere and do a controlled nuke test.

[Vyvian]

Took a while to figure out which areas were the entrance but I managed to make some progress on maps (NOT yet completed). The Ceizak portion is pretty much set I'm just not 100% sure where the border of that east tunnel is. First section of Morimar is done, but only a bit of Foret. If the walls aren't shown it's because I'm not sure if there is one so feel free to give feedback on walls etc. Keep in mind that this is a composite map (thanks to Slycer) so you can't really use it in reference to X-Y positions in game. All the little parts are broken up amongst like 25 in-game maps and they almost all take place on H-# or G-# grids. So telling your party you're at H-7 is pretty useless because every map is gonna be at H-7.



You can probably tell just by looking at that Ceizak sucks for farming plasm, it's extremely long and the mobs are far apart making long inefficient pulls. Morimar is the best area to farm plasm because the first section is one big room with a small side room with mobs. Foret is second best and has a few more mobs not as far apart as Ceizak.

Using apradar's map pack, the Ceizak Shard uses maps 10f_0 10f_1 and 10f_2, which matches up to what you've marked. The far east divider if memory serves is the G/H dividing line on the map grid on 10f_2.

Since the order worked out conveniently like that, the maps seem ordered like we'd read a book (left to right top to bottom, but that isn't a perfect match as the first map is at lower points than the maps that follow it). Starting from 10f0 and moving east you eventually run into the map with the marked foret fracture start. It seems like It moves west to east and when there are multiple junctures it favors NE junctures if they lead to a map not yet represented. Then when it reaches as far east as it can from the current map (either map end or the east is already represented) it jumps back to the west edge on the next map south. I'm not sure what the deal is with that 18th map that doesn't have any connections though.

[dasva]

The Ceizak NM#2 area should probably continue a bit more than listed. You definitely can make that U-turn to the east side of the map. I"ve seen the NM pop there even.

Yeah middle of that U was where moth was for me last night

[Slycer]

Finally created a BG account!!

For the sake of knowledge and satisfying my own curiosity, I decided to go ahead and do the Type C "Acc" path on my Bokwus Gloves... The second augment is Att and as of Rank 4, they have Acc+9 and Att+5. Should know by the end of today what the third augment is...

What was the progression, if you happen to remember? 6/0/0 for rank 1, 9/5/0 for rank 4, what was in between? I'm guessing 7/4/0 and 8/4/0 (I would have thought acc would go 6->6->7->7 to match the m.acc and mab progressions, but I guess it goes up one per tier?).

Edit: Never mind, the accuracy starts at 8 for rank 1. It may very well just be the normal accuracy path with DEX as the third augment.

[Creelo]

Acc+8 -> Acc+8 Att+4 -> Acc+9 Att+4 -> Acc+9 Att+5

I believe this was the progression so far.

[Slycer]

Added mezzotinting information onto Delve Rewards page, along with the paths for individual weapons/armor. Check for accuracy, please. Also, if anyone has Shield and can check those augs, that would be cool too (looks like it has unique ones, JP report of HP/VIT augment on type B).

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Delve_Rewards

[Zaredx]

Mmm, I wondered about that, honestly. 70 str/dex/vit etc isn't exactly a huge boon relative to those weapons. I mean it's huge compared to anything pup's ever gotten, but when you consider everything else, I can't see it being THAT huge of a change. I wouldn't really be shocked if it was +70 across the board, but someone who actually posts here (as opposed to hearing shit second hand, or needing to have a middleman) would need to get it and do the tests to make sure. If the thing gives at all significant amounts of anything other than stats, it should be relatively obvious for physical stuff with a short parse (damage dealt, damage taken, evasion, accuracy, etc), though we'd still probably need a bigger one just to nail down the exact amounts, and spells should be a complete joke to test if you just take the puppet out somewhere and do a controlled nuke test.

LS mate got one and nuked some things.

Bliz1 vs level 0 starter mobs. 150 without any gear, 255 with alternator.

Thunder 5 vs Giants in Abyssea (no int/mab abyssea buffs). 1175 without. 1816 with alternator.

Seems like MAB +35 or so.

[Teknique]

Recently they changed flashy shot with this update, Has anyone tried using it on delve Nms Post rage to see if it helps in any way?

[macross]

trex pops in the very bottom room on that map.