Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens

[Deftscythe]

I wonder what his response would've been if Lucas had asked him after the premiere of Phantom Menace.

[6souls]

From 2008

I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no ‘Episodes VII-IX’. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything! The ‘Star Wars’ story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story.

https://twitter.com/LaFamiliaFilm/st...08589891526657

[Rulke]

You can quote Lucas at various times over the past 30 years and he has different answers for everything.

[6souls]

I just had to post that donut neck.

[Deftscythe]

Fucking Lucas implying he had a story for the prequels the whole time between Jedi and Phantom Menace like anyone believes him.

[Qalbert]

uhhh if he didn't have it all planned out then how do you explain Obi-wan talking about the Clone Wars in episode IV, checkmate

[Deftscythe]

dang, u rite.

[BaneTheBrawler]

"tragedy" of vader lol

you need a sympathetic character for a tragedy. that shit was anakin getting exactly what he deserved

[Vaspinne]

Edit: Er... posted this in the wrong thread >_>

[Weltall]

The Lucas guy on 4chan has been right on trailer date and the items he talked about aligned with the art that was released this week; I'm going to go with his spoilers being accurate.

[kuronosan]

Tragedy of Vader my ass.... Lucas is a hack who got lucky with a few films and let the money poison his vision.

[Petitssk]

"tragedy" of vader lol

you need a sympathetic character for a tragedy. that shit was anakin getting exactly what he deserved

Pretty much. In retrospective, a whiny child with superpowers turning into Darth Vader ruined the character for me. Then again, Darth Vader lost much of his appeal when I grew up - casual murder of subordinates just isn't all that cool.

I still like the way he tries to redeem himself, though - at least until they changed the message behind that by making him go back to his younger self post-mortem.

[BaneTheBrawler]

yeah. i was actually talking about this the other day with a buddy. the way i see it, of the prequels, episode 1 anakin is actually the best anakin. because he's just a kid acting like a kid. by episode 2 hes old enough to start showing more good character traits. which he doesn't.

[Deftscythe]

The problem with Anakin is he's just such a fucking whiner that every relationship he has is unbelievable. Why would Obi-wan call him a friend in New Hope? Why would Padme marry him? Who could fucking like this guy?

[Hirronimus]

I think Star Wars: The Clone Wars cartoon (3D graphics one, not the drawn one) captured Anakin's nature the best. He was a caring teacher, a good friend and capable leader who actually cared for his subordinates (clone troopers), and he got much deserved respect from all of those people. Granted, he had flaws as a teacher, but that's probably due to his cocky loner nature as the "chosen one", but I think the cartoon shown what his character was supposed to be in the prequel trilogy the best.

[Deftscythe]

That character and the Anakin presented in episodes two and three can't be reconciled. They just aren't the same person. The caring leader you're talking about is already a mass murderer before the show even starts.

[Rulke]

^ This. With the movies as the main cannon points, any extra fluffing out of Anakin's character is moot.

[Qalbert]

isn't clone wars also still canon tho

[Eurell]

isn't clone wars also still canon tho

Yes

[BaneTheBrawler]

it's canon in that the people in charge say it's canon. doesn't mean it fits the continuity. clone wars anakin is definitely a different person.