"Health is a cultural construction, not a “fact” that can be defined in terms of science"

[quannum]

yea ksan's posts are weird to say the least. spaghetti and the sauce are pure sugar, which is okay if you lead an active lifestyle. kids can eat garbage because they'll burn through it, but once you start leading a sedentary lifestyle, you're choice of food really counts.

lots of people gain weight when they start college because they're no longer getting a class of PE, but eating the same or worse quality of food. no one is ever told what they should eat, but we have the internet now ... there's no reason that people should think "going on diet" works in 2013.

[Xno Kappa]

I'm grateful as hell the wifey has a great attitude about staying in shape lol.

[Ksandra]

yea ksan's posts are weird to say the least. spaghetti and the sauce are pure sugar,

y'all know whole-grain pasta exists right? How do you know if I use sauce, or what kind, or if I home make it, or anything? Or how often she eats it or how much or what she eats with it? and so on and so on


This kinda proves my point how people telling you what to do can be irritating. Because it's full of assumptions. No one bothers to find out first and just assumes "your fat because of donuts" when you don't even eat donuts.

[Rhyis.]

I eat donuts and I'm skinny. Maybe you should eat donuts.

[kuronosan]

implying I haven't tried.

ignoring archi's comments since they are retarded.

@ kuro,daughter's food is not up for discussion, sorry. Doctors advice > some random dude on the internet.

Random? Lol......

Look it doesn't matter what the fuck you feed your kid. If you don't feed her correctly (read: nutritional content and quantity) you might as well be feeding her garbage. Your pediatrician telling you to feed her turkey meatballs is really just a nice way of telling you to change your diet overall. Chicken has just as much protein, has a little more fat, and a lot less salt.

[Ksandra]

yes? unless you want to amaze us all and tell us you are a woman and my pediatrician, then yes, her word is a million times more valid to me than yours.

[Hyan]

This kinda proves my point how people telling you what to do can be irritating. Because it's full of assumptions. No one bothers to find out first and just assumes "your fat because of donuts" when you don't even eat donuts.

Well you're not a unique snowflake, that's for sure.

[Hyan]

double

[Ksandra]

Well you're not a unique snowflake, that's for sure.

did I ever say I was? I don't think fat is beautiful or any of that crap. I do think it's hopeless to fix it (for me), though. And I think you guys are helping prove that point to me.

[Ksandra]

double

[kuronosan]

yes? unless you want to amaze us all and tell us you are a woman and my pediatrician, then yes, her word is a million times more valid to me than yours.

Hey, whatever girl. I don't need to be a woman or your doctor to know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to medicine.

[Ksandra]

Hey, whatever girl. I don't need to be a woman or your doctor to know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to medicine.

...kuro what does that have to do with me?

[Ksandra]

holy hiccups batman.

[kuronosan]

I think my brain is about to pop.

[Hyan]

did I ever say I was? I don't think fat is beautiful or any of that crap. I do think it's hopeless to fix it (for me), though. And I think you guys are helping prove that point to me.

Well you do make it seem like if we understood your "unique" condition we'd have a different tone.

[AoE]

I like how this topic went from people general attitude about obesity to a speech to persuade Ksandra to lose weight. All we need is someone to write an outline and we can get started.

[Ksandra]

Well you do make it seem like if we understood your "unique" condition we'd have a different tone.

it's not unique, just that no one bothers to find it out. and would rather stereotype us all to those that eat donuts and think fat is beautiful.

[edit] I am not big boned, I am not low metabolism, I am not w/e medical thing fatties want to throw at.

knowing all of that, doesn't give me any hope though.

[Ksandra]

I like how this topic went from people general attitude about obesity to a speech to persuade Ksandra to lose weight. All we need is someone to write an outline and we can get started.

waste of time,

I think I will stay out of the topic if that's what people think they're going to be able to do.

So /cheers for those who are sick of my posts XD

[kuronosan]

Look, I may not be in a position to tell you how your daughter will or won't react to certain types of food but I do know quite a bit about nutrition and psychology - you are using various excuses to mask the fact that you really have no desire to improve your quality of life.

My bringing up turkey wasn't so much to illustrate what you should be feeding your daughter so much as it was an attempt to get you to be conscious of diets and foods you feed your children. Feed your child turkey because a doctor said so but ignore people on a forum because they're not there? Why be so ignorant?

Second of all, if you can resolve to feed your daughter properly you can do the same for yourself. You're just plain lazy.

Hide behind depression all you want or blame the forum if you must but notice I have never once attacked your weight and said lolfatty.

What good is talking sense into you when you're so willing and ready to blame everyone else for your state of mind. You control your mind and body - no one else.

So get your ass up for your and your daughter's sake and do something positive and healthy.

[Grey Jorildyn]

I deal with depressed/overweight people every day as a mental health counselor. Quite frankly you don't need hope as much as you need action. CBT already came up in this thread and it's a very useful approach for helping people change thoughts to generate better behaviors. If you think it is hopeless, then it will be just that--"hopeless". If you throw all the typical excuses out the window but continue to admit defeat, that's not being "hopeless" so much as it is your resistance to change. What you need is a little Motivational interviewing to help you see what the real reasons you "choose" to believe are. Once you identify those, it's a matter of finding a way to move forward that is comfortable, but also challenging, for you.