Square Enix tells us what to expect from now on.

[Lucavi]

Whoever says KH "wasn't fun to play" must really hate playing fun games.
Enjoy sticking to your shooters then.

Oh, also, grown people can't like a game with Disney characters. Duh. It devalues your manhood or... something.
Also, I don't get people who are trying to compare the KH series to other games that kept getting postponed... KH3 was never even officially announced, and while I do have a big problem with the fact that the series has been spread through so many different consoles, the point is that the story is still being pushed forward, however slow that might be. DreamDropDistance was a major installment in the series, even though it was on the 3DS and not on a major console.

No, nothing like either of your two main "points", but yeah, keep assuming you know something.

[Hank]

I enjoyed the games, but I can completely see why someone wouldn't like them. The gameplay isn't anything special and the story is soap opera tier.

[Koul]

God tier final boss music.

[Elcura]

Its not so much "fun" for me. Its the subject material. I've grown up, and grown old of the "spiky-haired belted-up preteens save the world" bit. Japan can't seem to move beyond it, and including Disney characters, which, while charismatic, still emphasize children and pre-teen-levels of ambition and such, doesn't interest me anymore. I don't -want- that subject material anymore, just like I don't -want- the burly, over-muscled grizzled and jaded gun-shooter fighting both the enemy and his past demons. Been there for 25 years of my life, done that.

What I do enjoy from the KH series are the soundtracks. Even if I don't play the games, I'll check out the OSTs because good music is just good music.

Don't care about the story, you can hate the story in KH while still admitting it's fun to play. I'll be the first to say the story in KH is a clusterfuck and the characters are generally uninspired but I'll be damned if that game play isn't fucking fun. I do enjoy the story, just not as a serious thing. It's mostly "Oh that happened, cool," or the opposite.

Nah I just expected much better (storywise and characters) out of these two big companies. Considering it's fucking Square/Disney at that time and honestly I think we were ripped off. Gameplay mechanics can be pretty fun, (not the stupid ass gummy ship segments or any gameplay in KH1) but aside from that there isn't much to lure me in. The fact that you also have to dick around on handhelds just to know what's been going on in the series since 2006 is also ridiculous.

There are a lot of good games I have played over time that I can look back and say "oh man I would love to play that again sometime" Kingdom Hearts has never been one of them.

It's sad that many "fans" of the series on other sites have to make up lies and pass it as truth so they can sleep better at night while they wait for KH3. At this point it's becoming as much as a joke as Half Life 2: Episode 3.

Ain't no denial here. Game play is fun as fuck, everything else depends on whether you like it or not (story/music/characters).

[Moridam]

God tier final boss music.

the whole soundtrack is god-tier, imo. probably my favorite from mitsuda (with gears and CC trailing closely behind) or just overall, for that matter. shame he didn't get onboard for the sequels.

[Hitoshura]

Whoever says KH "wasn't fun to play" must really hate playing fun games.
Enjoy sticking to your shooters then.

Oh, also, grown people can't like a game with Disney characters. Duh. It devalues your manhood or... something.
Also, I don't get people who are trying to compare the KH series to other games that kept getting postponed... KH3 was never even officially announced, and while I do have a big problem with the fact that the series has been spread through so many different consoles, the point is that the story is still being pushed forward, however slow that might be. DreamDropDistance was a major installment in the series, even though it was on the 3DS and not on a major console.

No one said that seriously, at least I thought they were being sarcastic or joking. I definitely didn't say that had anything to do with it. I mean shit, who didn't grow up watching Disney movies? Like I said I expected a lot better from the series as a whole. You can't tell me you liked what they did with older FF characters. They basically turned them into useless NPC's , when they could have used them as other characters to sub out Donald and Goofy for different play styles. Could you just imagine how much MORE fun a game like KH would be if they had done something like that? Not to mention the characters wouldn't be completely worthless.

[Lucavi]

Don't care about the story, you can hate the story in KH while still admitting it's fun to play. I'll be the first to say the story in KH is a clusterfuck and the characters are generally uninspired but I'll be damned if that game play isn't fucking fun. I do enjoy the story, just not as a serious thing. It's mostly "Oh that happened, cool," or the opposite.

I watched a good friend (at the time) play through pretty much the entire game. It was alright. Loved the music, though; love Hollow Bastion. I was more into Tactical RPGs at the time, so it was okay. I'm not going to bash the gameplay or whatever, but it just didn't latch onto me like a leech or something.

People are allowed to like and dislike things, Elcura. You don't have to try and win everyone to your side, you know.

[Kalmado]

I never played KH because of the disney characters. Yes I realize and own the fact that it's close minded and silly. I do the same with games where the protagonist is female. I just can't get into it.

[Charismatic]

I never played KH because of the disney characters. Yes I realize and own the fact that it's close minded and silly. I do the same with games where the protagonist is female. I just can't get into it.

I just can't turn away from that delicious gameplay (and godly music)

[Koul]

I never played KH because of the disney characters. Yes I realize and own the fact that it's close minded and silly. I do the same with games where the protagonist is female. I just can't get into it.

Is there any specific reason for not playing games with female leads or just because? Not trying to flame or anything. I'm just curious for the reasoning.

[Kalmado]

Is there any specific reason for not playing games with female leads or just because? Not trying to flame or anything. I'm just curious for the reasoning.

I can tell you with movies it's Angelina Jolie. Every stinking movie she's in she has to be some form of a badass. It's so tiring. Games I give the benefit of the doubt since it's a game, but at times it's the annoying female grunt noises(like in tennis), oversexed characters, or the need to be over the top cutesy wootsy.

I can say I didn't mind the time you played as Mona Sax in Max Payne 2. While they did give her sex appeal, it wasn't over the top. I can't name any others off the top of my head.

[Exoduso]

I can tell you with movies it's Angelina Jolie. Every stinking movie she's in she has to be some form of a badass. It's so tiring. Games I give the benefit of the doubt since it's a game, but at times it's the annoying female grunt noises(like in tennis), oversexed characters, or the need to be over the top cutesy wootsy.

I can say I didn't mind the time you played as Mona Sax in Max Payne 2. While they did give her sex appeal, it wasn't over the top. I can't name any others off the top of my head.

So you haven't played the Xenosaga trilogy, or FF13/13-2? You're missing out on some great games then. (Granted, Xenosaga 1 is tiring as fuck, the series did get better progressively with 2 and 3 though..)

[Kalmado]

I played ff13 for 8 hours and promptly put that hot garbage on ebay. I couldn't give two shits about one character in that game. I wouldn't mind trying out Xenosaga.

[Tyrath]

So you haven't played the Xenosaga trilogy, or FF13/13-2? You're missing out on some great games then. (Granted, Xenosaga 1 is tiring as fuck, the series did get better progressively with 2 and 3 though..)

Wat. 3 > 1 > 2.

I'm still looking to get my hands on that remake of 2 using 1's battle system.

[Exoduso]

Wat. 3 > 1 > 2.

I agree with you, MOSTLY lol. While 2 is probably the most irritating gameplay style to get used to, battles in 1 just take sooooooo looooooong that I have to put it behind 2. That shit is probably the slowest turn-based system I have ever played.
That being said, thank god for the story, because it's the only thing that pushed me to go grab #2 and 3.

[Moridam]

XS2 is honestly one of the most disappointing RPG's I've ever played. I was looking forward to it in a way I can't even begin to describe, but the battle system was just so awful I couldn't bring myself to beat it. I got close, but I couldn't close it out. Couple that with the disappointment of going from Mitsuda to Kajiura, the VA swaps, etc., man, what an absolute trainfuck.

3 made up for it, but still. Fuck Xenosaga 2. Anyone that says that game is better than anything else is clearly a crazy person.



I still say the original is the best, if for no reason other than it had that one song. Goddamn, people.

[Sol-Blackguy]

Whoever says KH "wasn't fun to play" must really hate playing fun games.
Enjoy sticking to your shooters then.

Oh, also, grown people can't like a game with Disney characters. Duh. It devalues your manhood or... something.
Also, I don't get people who are trying to compare the KH series to other games that kept getting postponed... KH3 was never even officially announced, and while I do have a big problem with the fact that the series has been spread through so many different consoles, the point is that the story is still being pushed forward, however slow that might be. DreamDropDistance was a major installment in the series, even though it was on the 3DS and not on a major console.

<= Your argument is invalid.

[Shenrien]

3 made up for it, but still. Fuck Xenosaga 2. Anyone that says that game is better than anything else is clearly a crazy person.

I have never had the privilage to play 3, and I never finished 1 because I got super far in the game, and then my save file got corrupted and said to myself I couldn't be bothered to start all over even if I did skip all the in-game movies(those things were far from fucking standard cutscenes to break up the gameplay.) I got really far in X2, but got to a point where there was a boss I could not kill because he would just full cure himself and I couldn't find out how to break his pattern or prevent it from happening so I said fuck it ultimately.

I don't really care for that series of games if you can even call them games.. just felt more like 5-10 minutes of game play depending on if you had to grind or not for the next bit of content just to watch the next full length feature film movie to tell another bit of the story. Weren't there suppose to be like 7 titles in this games series or something?

[Ksandra]

KH series is fucking awesome.

Xenosaga 1 was awesome.

Xenosaga 2 sucked balls and killed it for the rest of the series.

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[Kuishen]

I liked the battle system in Xenosaga 2 because it was like a game of chess. You took a few turns to set up these major moves to deal the damage to your enemy. Once you understood how it worked, it was great. I would have liked a middle ground between that and the first game's system though, because 1's system reminded me of Legend of Legaia.

Haven't played 3 yet. Ya'll be hatin' though.