Super Smash Bros.

[Not Kuno]

Doc was untouched? Ill take that as a good thing.

[Elcura]

Holy shit change. This is exciting.

[Meian]

Rosalina :
-Luma timer increased to 13 seconds
-Nair deals less damage, less kb as well
-Neutral B's distance covered has been lowered (Which is, in fact, a buff, that shit was hard to land properly.)
-Luma comes back faster


Sheik :
-Down B has less knockback
-Uair has less knockback
-Fair deals less damages

Greninja :
-More lag on Usmash

Wario :
-No longer has that troublesome release animation so some characters can't combo him as easily as before

-Wectoring fixed
-Greninja's Dair cancel fixed

Ah thank you glad to see this. Not sure what this wrectoring is but I am assuming the vectoring in general? People been saying vectoring is still there in some form at least. I haven't heard if Palutena's Lightweight infinite duration glitch being changed (edit: still there! Hilarious). Glad Ganoncide has not been removed probably because of how much harder it is to do (and riskier) compared to the others and wow for his Nair <3

Freaking finally about Wario, he had that problem in Brawl and yet they still had it in this game lol...

Nothing major on Yoshi it looks, his egg spam is greatly bothersome @_@ Doesn't reflect well either. If this wasn't changed I'd be sad... seems more to the list as time goes on when people look more.

Happy for Ike changes they were needed.

Not liking less knock back on Sheik.

Because something that fast, that strong, and more importantly, THAT SAFE is ok? lol (assuming you mean the down-b). I would've preferred if the down-b was less safe to "anyone" if it missed/shielded aka more lag/land closer. You should be happy that was all they did to it for now.

[Genosync]

Ah thank you glad to see this. Not sure what this wrectoring is but I am assuming the vectoring in general? People been saying vectoring is still there in some form at least. I haven't heard if Palutena's Lightweight infinite duration glitch being changed (edit: still there! Hilarious). Glad Ganoncide has not been removed probably because of how much harder it is to do (and riskier) compared to the others and wow for his Nair <3

Freaking finally about Wario, he had that problem in Brawl and yet they still had it in this game lol...

Nothing major on Yoshi it looks, his egg spam is greatly bothersome @_@ Doesn't reflect well either. If this wasn't changed I'd be sad... seems more to the list as time goes on when people look more.

Happy for Ike changes they were needed.



Because something that fast, that strong, and more importantly, THAT SAFE is ok? lol (assuming you mean the down-b). I would've preferred if the down-b was less safe to "anyone" if it missed/shielded aka more lag/land closer. You should be happy that was all they did to it for now.

She doesn't kill until like 140%+ with it unless the opponent sucks at DI/Vectoring or does something stupid to get caught off stage. It wasn't really something that was too hard for someone to fight off. Also, if you miss and you don't hit shield either, you're eating a crap ton of lag. Just tested it myself and it still kills at like 140-150% on stage on a Lv9 CPU, fresh, with Sheil at 0%.

I don't see that Fair was touched at all. I'm doing 4-6% with it which is actually more than I remember before (only really saw 4s before). Knock back looks the same.

Seriously not seeing any of these Sheik changes.

[Genosync]

She doesn't kill until like 140%+ with it unless the opponent sucks at DI/Vectoring or does something stupid to get caught off stage. It wasn't really something that was too hard for someone to fight off. Also, if you miss and you don't hit shield either, you're eating a crap ton of lag. Just tested it myself and it still kills at like 140-150% on stage on a Lv9 CPU, fresh, with Sheil at 0%.

I don't see that Fair was touched at all. I'm doing 4-6% with it which is actually more than I remember before (only really saw 4s before). Knock back looks the same.

Seriously not seeing any of these Sheik changes.

Uair still kills around the same too.

[Nitsuki]

I welcome these changes, pretty excited for the future of this game as long as they don't get stupid.

Dedede unchanged bugs me a bit cuz his projectiles are too easily shot back at him imo (i mean shit, a mario fireball shoots it back at lightning speed). ZSS nerfs aren't bad at all, i'm very glad they didn't touch her normals. Her down+b is still hard to land if you play stupid with her and can possibly cause suicides. Lol

Also, thank fucking god item canceling is gone. Fuck link for having that and being able to throw a million things at you.

[Meian]

Dedede unchanged bugs me a bit cuz his projectiles are too easily shot back at him imo

He has like one of the best projectiles (non-charged) in the game in terms of insane knockback and good damage. Before I knew you could know them back it was impossible for me to approach him. I have improved against his camping game and have gotten better at repelling those Gordos. I am glad they can be pushed back it makes him have to use his other kits as well, like his crazy d-throw into aerial or his fast strong downsmash that reminds me of the old Metaknight from Brawl. The better Dedede's put it out at proper times where they catch them off guard not just sitting there and spamming it all day.

Edit: In other news, I am really liking these Ike changes feels like an updated Brawl version of him.

Edit 2: Little Mac KO Punch was not buffed. The jab nerf is real and his aerial side-b was nerfed in distance (NOOOO). Ouch... well at least he can still wall jump I guess

[Genosync]

Yeah, most of the "initial reports" are way, way wrong. I don't see a single change to Sheik at all. There's no extra delay after needles than there was before--it's exactly the same and it's always been there.

Edit: there's a video Chibo/Nyani made on Chibo's you tubes (Clash Tournaments) that has most of the proper information. Big notes are the Luma timer, Greninja not getting to cancel lag with sideB, and a bunch of the other "cancel" techs.

[Kirin]

I figured a bunch of the things reddit had posted would be more placebo-esque "feeling" type changes since they came out so quick, but at least t got people to go out and test while those of us who couldn't, couldnt.

Gonna dig into Sheik and Mega Man a bit right now.

[Nitsuki]

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Don't get me wrong, i fucking love dedede to death in this version. He's way more fun, imo. His gordos just get knocked back WAY too easily is all, at least a small armor would be nice, when a faster mario fireball shoots it back 2-fold. That's just my gripe, overall, i really enjoy dedede's utility, i do miss his brawl fast bair tho.

[Meian]

http://smashboards.com/threads/commu...#post-18008808

Was said to be confirmed by this guy who has been testing with both pre/post patch versions a lot of things so go check his posts for some more info

Don't get me wrong, i fucking love dedede to death in this version. He's way more fun, imo. His gordos just get knocked back WAY too easily is all, at least a small armor would be nice, when a faster mario fireball shoots it back 2-fold. That's just my gripe, overall, i really enjoy dedede's utility, i do miss his brawl fast bair tho.

I had played Toon Link to counter Dedede for a while because of his Gordos to reflect them. It was fairly bothersome as a melee at the time to handle them. Counter projectile spam with a better projectile spam. Thus, I see no issue.

Edit:

http://smashboards.com/threads/commu...v1-0-4.378404/

More concise list with various updates and additions to the patch


Edit 2:

It looks like Gordos can be reflected by Megaman's pellets and Charizard's inner hits of his Flamethrower now in this patch

[Genosync]

I just hit someone with 10 Shulk Nairs in a row without getting touched lol, they just SD'd after that.

I love glory sometimes. Lol

[Kirin]

So apparently this bundle is a big thing and stores are all sold out.

Gonna have to try my luck at Target and hope they have a spare.

[Cream Soda]

The pieces separately is only 10 bucks more.

[Kirin]

The pieces separately is only 10 bucks more.

But thats 10 bucks I save.

(To spend on Alpha Sapphire)

[Nitsuki]

Shit, that's not good, hope someone comes through when i have my smash party on friday. I plan to buy a 2nd adapter if i find one before people head over.

[Sho]

Shit, that's not good, hope someone comes through when i have my smash party on friday. I plan to buy a 2nd adapter if i find one before people head over.

Why not live in New York, you son of a bitch.

I want a smash party. :\

[Cream Soda]

https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/s...45524589260800

[Genosync]

https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/s...45524589260800

... So, so incredibly mean.

The only thing that will make this acceptable is Roy DLC.

Gonna go replay Sacred Stones now of whatever the hell the one he's in is called.

Idk why I care though. I took Marf and Roy out for a spin in Melee the other day and got wrecked.

[Not Kuno]

More concise list with various updates and additions to the patch

Oh man it looks like dr mario got a tiny boost. Fair having more knockback is great, and someone said dair having less hits/damage means it's easier to combo with. I don't use dair too much so it might be nice. I'm ok with this.

Why not live in New York, you son of a bitch.

I want a smash party. :\

A smash party you say?