Beta 3 impressions and general discussion

[Exoduso]

Speaking of tells and chats and what not, is there a way to lock those on the top of the chat screen before they go away?
I filtered out pretty much everything but damage taken by me as far as battle chatter goes, but I still miss linkshell chats and tells sometimes and they just roll by. This can get very annoying in a party setup too.
I was expecting a mechanism like in XI where you could expand the text box to full screen to see what you missed, but without it I have to manually scroll up to look for it which is madly frustrating on a PS3.

[Raldo]

Is there a reason why you need to see your damage taken?

I think they did away with that feature that FFXI had since their default setup leaves the chat in its own tab.

[Churchill]

Eh.

The no dungeon tell thing was more than likely specifically coded as such, their response gives this further credibility. It has all the markings of a good idea at SE.

[Denmork]

I don't really care about talking to people across servers, but not being able to send tells while on my home server is fucking retarded. If you seriously can not chat and play the game at the same time then you really need to give up video games altogether. Also if all you ever get are shit tier groups then maybe you should ask yourself if it's really the group that's shit tier.

[Exoduso]

Is there a reason why you need to see your damage taken?

I think they did away with that feature that FFXI had since their default setup leaves the chat in its own tab.

With all the HP bars around not really, I just like it that way. I also keep attacks missed/blocked/parried, just so I know how frequently it goes off.
And while it's true that you can just switch tabs and create new ones, I think it's kind of annoying switching back and forth, again, on a PS3. I'm sure with a mouse it's as simple as a click away.

[popsiclestix]

All I can tell is Shiyo needs to just go play some more GW2. Quit FFXIV beta, its not going to get better and just uninstall. The 3rd party party finder seems like a glorified LFG tool.

Regarding the snazzy duty finder, does this mean that everyone has a unique first and last name across all servers? Also, if the party quits a dungeon due to time but wants to retry, can they keep doing it with the same group? What if you find an awesome group and you just want to keep farming with the said group?

I can see that the reason why chatting with people in dungeon isn't possible is due to the cross world gaming of dungeons. The system is placing dungeon users into a cross server buffer area where the players can complete their mission, attain hunting log kills and earn loot. Their progress is retained when they return to their normal world. Communication would be slightly logistically difficult because joining into the dungeon area, you are not allowed to bring in more than your character.

If you could chat with someone then it would require opening a channel of communication outside of bringing a character in and out. Think of it this way, if all tells operate on port 2 in the world of Chocobo, all Free company chat is on port 3, and all linkshell is on port 4, etc. If you are then placed into a cross server dungeon area, how will this work? All 4 players in a dungeon would have their chat go back to their respective server? That could be a programming nightmare.

The logical solution is to allow messages to queue up. If you /tell a person in dungeon, it just queues up messages per sender. When the person exits the dungeon and returns to their world, it just displays a box to accept or reject the /tell. Meanwhile the person who is sending /tell to the person in the dungeon will just get a notification that their message will be queued while the recipient is in dungeon.

[Shiyo]

All I can tell is Shiyo needs to just go play some more GW2. Quit FFXIV beta, its not going to get better and just uninstall. The 3rd party party finder seems like a glorified LFG tool.

Yeah, not liking a LFG tool = game is unplayable and complete garb...what?

[Fereydoon]

With all the HP bars around not really, I just like it that way. I also keep attacks missed/blocked/parried, just so I know how frequently it goes off.
And while it's true that you can just switch tabs and create new ones, I think it's kind of annoying switching back and forth, again, on a PS3. I'm sure with a mouse it's as simple as a click away.

You can create two logs, one for chat and one for battle.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Yeah, not liking a LFG tool = game is unplayable and complete garb...what?

You act like this is the only thing you've ever complained about in regards to XIV. You're just digging yourself a deeper hole with every post y'know.

We get it, you LOVE Guild Wars 2. Go enjoy it then and stop posting here so the rest of us can enjoy our game and forum section. Submit some dev feedback if you care that much on your way out.

[Evane]

Yeah, not liking a LFG tool = game is unplayable and complete garb...what?

The intensity of bitching in your posts may suggest so, to be fair.

[Kachiko]

That's just Shiyo; the same happened in the GW2 threads, back when they were active. The times she gives good information/ideas is lost in the vinegar that she lathers her posts with.

I's almost baffling to read some of the comments going on. SE screwed up in their ideas about cross-server interaction, and per standard JP social interaction, denies that it's a problem until it's quietly fixed so that they minimize the shame. Yoshi's generally the opposite of this though, but nobody's immune (if it's even coming from him). Regardless, nobody's quitting over this so long as dungeons are a short time-sink; the complaints will really start flowing if the end game raids take a lot longer and you can't communicate except via public disclosure, and we all know that's just not practical or even desired.

To be fair though, I'm not familiar with a lot of Asian based MMO's, if any, being too cross-server except to get in and out of a dungeon.

[Lucavi]

I don't see how they can overlook: "People want to talk to each other in a MMO"

Well they overlooked "people want to have fun", "people want to play a quality game" and certainly overlooked "people don't want stupid restrictions on how long they can play", so yeah, I can imagine.

[Eanae]

That's just Shiyo; the same happened in the GW2 threads, back when they were active. The times she gives good information/ideas is lost in the vinegar that she lathers her posts with.

I's almost baffling to read some of the comments going on. SE screwed up in their ideas about cross-server interaction, and per standard JP social interaction, denies that it's a problem until it's quietly fixed so that they minimize the shame. Yoshi's generally the opposite of this though, but nobody's immune (if it's even coming from him). Regardless, nobody's quitting over this so long as dungeons are a short time-sink; the complaints will really start flowing if the end game raids take a lot longer and you can't communicate except via public disclosure, and we all know that's just not practical or even desired.

To be fair though, I'm not familiar with a lot of Asian based MMO's, if any, being too cross-server except to get in and out of a dungeon.

Shiyo is a good player and it was fun doing PVP in GW2 with her but she just doesn't know when to shut up and over exaggerates everything. WITH CAPS INCLUDED.

[Hellfury]

1) what was so important in rl that couldn't wait after the dungeon

I don't even know where to begin with this statement....

[Exoduso]

so much fail lol, 30 mins after the servers go up they send a worldwide message to log out for "emergency maintenance"....
duty finder was not working, btw.

[Spider-Dan]

If you guys honestly think they wont patch this dungeon tell problem by launch, you guys are delusional.

You should be careful with the "calm down, this is a beta, there's no way retail will have this problem" talk.

Particularly since the devs have said nothing at all to indicate they see this as anything other than Working As Intended.

[Kensaki]

so much fail lol, 30 mins after the servers go up they send a worldwide message to log out for "emergency maintenance"....
duty finder was not working, btw.

I was almost through Sastasha when the servers went down so yes the duty finder was working for me and my group at least.

[Zetanio]

Duty Finder is simple and works.

[Evane]

so much fail lol, 30 mins after the servers go up they send a worldwide message to log out for "emergency maintenance"....
duty finder was not working, btw.

It was working here. I got booted out after 50 mins of playing though.

[goodr]

Do we know how long it'll be down?