Beta 3 impressions and general discussion

[Lucavi]

I plan on stacking Skill Speed for MNK. Should be able to get the GCD below 2 seconds (when fully greased up) which should allow a bit more flexibility to get in haymakers, touch of deaths, etc.

Thanks for the link Gokulo, my mind is at ease now.

Just remember that for longer fights, Skill speed will run you out of stamina faster, I believe.

[TacoTaru]

So after a long day, I finally got my wife's controller working in everything but XIV (of course). When I boot up the game and go to configure the controller, all my buttons are mapped to the wrong thing. I've seen the issue on the beta forums, but no solution. Any ideas? Scarlet Crush is locking up her PC every time I try to install those drivers, so no go there.

Specifically

A -> Left Trigger
B -> Right Trigger
Bumpers are correct
L3 -> A 
R3 -> B
Left DPad -> Left L Joystick
Right Dpad -> Right L Joystick
Left R Joystick -> Up L Joystick
Right R Joystick -> Down L Joystick 
Select -> Y
Start -> X

Everything else unmapped

wtf?

Bumping this as I could never figure it out, I never found an answer on the beta forums and didn't see one here. Anyone else have this problem?

[Spider-Dan]

I had a similar problem when I was trying to get an iNPiN PS2->PS3 adaptor to work correctly on PC. I used some third-party drivers (might have been MotionInJoy, don't remember) and it had some crazy button mappings. The problem was not really that the buttons were mapped "wrong" (because you can just restart the configuration) but that the buttons would change between reboots. I finally gave up on it.

[BerenTebogo]

With all the skill speed buffs on PGL I've gotten from lv30ish GC gear it's hard to keep GLII up full time and not run out of TP after like 3 minutes.

It's doable, but it gets pretty close sometimes.

[Niiro]

Should be able to get the GCD below 2 seconds (when fully greased up)

I submit we adopt the term "fully lubed" when referring to max GL.

[TacoTaru]

I had a similar problem when I was trying to get an iNPiN PS2->PS3 adaptor to work correctly on PC. I used some third-party drivers (might have been MotionInJoy, don't remember) and it had some crazy button mappings. The problem was not really that the buttons were mapped "wrong" (because you can just restart the configuration) but that the buttons would change between reboots. I finally gave up on it.

Maybe unmapped was the wrong word as the buttons just flat out didn't work and were unmappable.

[Takiwaki]

Just remember that for longer fights, Skill speed will run you out of stamina faster, I believe.

One thing I do notice is that haymaker does stay up a while, so I prioritize getting my stacks refreshed then hitting haymaker. It is much easier at level 2 GL also.

Does anyone still use true strike after getting twin snakes at all?

[BerenTebogo]

Twin snakes fo' lyfe.

Especially after lv25

[BerenTebogo]

Also the animation is far superior.

For Hume F at least.

[Takiwaki]

Also the animation is far superior.

For Hume F at least.

Well the animations are the same for all races.

[Sigmakan]

I submit we adopt the term "fully lubed" when referring to max GL.

I'm on board with that

[Jaybar]

Went into Beta forums to report some stuff, ended up in the Graphics feedback for some reason. Holy shit they are still bitching about grass.

[Lucavi]

One thing I do notice is that haymaker does stay up a while, so I prioritize getting my stacks refreshed then hitting haymaker. It is much easier at level 2 GL also.

Does anyone still use true strike after getting twin snakes at all?

Rarely do I use true strike; I feel like its an actual DPS gain in the long run just spamming twin snakes; the potency difference is, what, 20? You'd lose more than that having a slow set of 1-2-3 1-4-3 combos if the buff wore off.

[Sigmakan]

Rarely do I use true strike; I feel like its an actual DPS gain in the long run just spamming twin snakes; the potency difference is, what, 20? You'd lose more than that having a slow set of 1-2-3 1-4-3 combos if the buff wore off.

I think I'll just alternate them.

[Sigmakan]

Just remember that for longer fights, Skill speed will run you out of stamina faster, I believe.

This brings up an interesting point.

Skillspeed is completely worthless if it doesnt also increase TP regeneration rate. Eventually, for long fights you'll be slowed down by TP, not the GCD. If skillspeed only impacts the GCD then that just means youll run out of TP sooner. You wont actually be doing any more attacks in the long run. The only solution to this is to have the TP regeneration tics be effected by skillspeed as well.

[Voyage1970]

This brings up an interesting point.

Skillspeed is completely worthless if it doesnt also increase TP regeneration rate. Eventually, for long fights you'll be slowed down by TP, not the GCD. If skillspeed only impacts the GCD then that just means youll run out of TP sooner. You wont actually be doing any more attacks in the long run. The only solution to this is to have the TP regeneration tics be effected by skillspeed as well.

Or have TP not auto regenerate during battle and be based off of auto-attacks. Then turn skill speed into Haste (which is already a status effect that some monsters use ie. Spriggans) and have it affect auto attack speed as well. That way auto attack has a purpose besides just bonus DoT while you are spamming skills and would fix skill speed being a detriment instead of a boon.

[Sigmakan]

Yessssssssssss

Edit: although, having TP regen out of battle is still nice.

[BerenTebogo]

Yeah as it currently is without TP regen buffs I'm already hitting a wall. When I'm tanking on PGL during fates (trying to piss lower lv GLA off) I keep spamming my combo and run out of TP like halfway through on most of the lv26+ fates.

[Lucavi]

^ Either of those are considerations, because you're limited by TP in higher levels. I love long fights because I start getting involved in the music and scene and battle and all, but running low on TP with Pug means slowing your skills down to like, one every 4.5 seconds; just enough to keep a loose rotation of 1-5-3 to keep GL and your TS buffs active.

Edit: Basically seconded Sath.

[Takiwaki]

^ Either of those are considerations, because you're limited by TP in higher levels. I love long fights because I start getting involved in the music and scene and battle and all, but running low on TP with Pug means slowing your skills down to like, one every 4.5 seconds; just enough to keep a loose rotation of 1-5-3 to keep GL and your TS buffs active.

Edit: Basically seconded Sath.

What sucks is that you dont even notice it till its too late and be like, wtf where is my tp.