DISCUSSION: 07/08/2013 Version Update, SAM wins mantle contest

[Morari]

The last bullet point in the Item Level section of the update notes:

Addition of items increasing combat skill strength
Some weapons that have displayed item levels have the effect of increasing combat skill strength.

This increase in combat skill strength differs from the effects of attributes such as "Sword skill +X," and are calculated independently for main and sub weapons.
* At present, this increase is added only for a specific subset of equipment. Other equipment will be made compatible with this functionality at a later date.
* This functionality will not be reflected in the combat skill section of the status screen.
* For the hand-to-hand skill, values have been set with consideration given the fact that damage values increase as the skill increases.

I bolded the part that I'm wondering most about. My kneejerk reaction is that there's some translation oddity going on there (or maybe some confusion in player terminology versus dev terms). Or maybe some hidden effect that's related to these "combat skill strength" that's not so apparent from just looking at the item (sorta like the Alternator).

[blasphemy]

The new gear is just unbelievable at this point... +188 parrying etc? I want to see how to obtain it.

[S N K]

DMG:140 Delay:288 STR+12 DEX+12 Axe skill +188 Parrying skill +188 Pet: Accuracy+30 Haste+3% < Wtf at this axe!

[dasva]

HELL YEAH NEW AMMO FOR MY???? ????... Yoichi?

DMG 87...

>¿<

Yoichi w/ new ammo : 213 base dmg
anni with new ammo : 329 base dmg

That is flatout wack sauce if its correct. is 58 delay supposed to cover that DPS gap.... Cause.....

That's how ammo + bow/guns work. Before now bows had a HUGE increase of base dmg from the last few updates while guns got basicallly squat. I'm 99% sure that after the r/e/m update yoichi will probably gain a good 150 base dmg while anni will get like 30

[Jem]

That ammo is so hot but it's going to make hate management a nightmare with Decoy Shot down. Like can you imagine a Relic Proc on Barrage with that ammo? /firstworldproblems

[orinthia]

I so knew those new bolts and xbows wouldn't have thf on them.

Just remove last stand from thf already SE! Fuck!

Incoming the plasm ammo purchases are just a single piece!

[Yeager]

Check Version is up.

2583 files, seems to be going quickly on my piece of crap laptop.

[Slycer]

Those 188s have to be a glitch or something, they appear on multiple weapons (values which make no sense).

Edit: I was only half serious, because they "broke" old maxes with delve stuff, but still wth lol. 188 does seem like a really random number though.

[Squah]

Incoming the plasm ammo purchases are just a single piece!

You shut your whore mouth


Inb4 shark ammo is 200k per bullet

[blasphemy]

This new wildskeeper gear makes delve obsolete...

[Outlaw]

Some of this stuff jeez..

I think SE just finally said, "The hell with it. Let's just break the game."

[shepardG]

Is it possible that the item level info is screwing up the dat miner programs?

[Shadida]

So glad I picked up my Ferdinand last night and not my Futatokoroto.

[Langly]

Animiki bullet where have you been all my life?

[Seol]

SE official notes only show 3 pets pictures for BST, but dats have 4 jugs (Rabbit/Crab/Chapul) Guesses on the 4th?!
Considering 3/4 of those are not rare, ex, or rare/ex


Edit: I'm guessing the one not shown is the rare/ex from Delve Plasm

[dejet]

Check Version is up.

2583 files, seems to be going quickly on my piece of crap laptop.

>.> i have 30mbps and god damn it the thing is moving slow as hell.

[Fival]

Those 188s have to be a glitch or something, they appear on multiple weapons (values which make no sense).

This is exactly what i thought last update when delve came out though, "those damages must be like double or something", so i honestly don't put it past them now. The combat skill on the weapons is +188 attack and +169 accuracy, and these arn't even the fracture naakul versions of wepaons yet, thats absurd.

[Cairthenn]

If it's an error, that's exactly how it is in the DATs.. :C

Anything in particular people want to see (not models)?

[Seol]

New coalition assignments if possible? and quests? idk if missions would be ok with all the delicate people and their spoilers crusade.

[Shadida]

The "Item Level" notes refer to "Combat Skill Strength" and at least suggests that Scythe Skill Strength +188 is not the same thing as Scythe Skill +188. GL to all the mathy people figuring that one out.