Question for 2004-era NINs

[Fake]

This thread went from one explayer trying to see if he could stir up some drama to the most pathetic safeface between 2(3?) explayers.

On topic: If this claim was before they made it so hitting shadows didn't actually generate hate but lost it, then I can't imagine it would be difficult if that was all that was said. To do it without any gear swaps fulltiming haub/snipers etc is what makes it a completely retarded claim and not worth making this horrible excuse for a thread.

[Spider-Dan]

I mean, if you had said that you did whatever to Fafnir in 2006 or 2008 or what have you, then fine. As I recall, people were able to solo some NQ kings before rage timer implementation, so whatever.

2004 is the real problem. It seems difficult to believe that at that time, if someone had let a NIN solo tank Fafnir, they would even attempt do so in DD gear with no swaps. That's damn near throwing away a claim on one of the most prized mobs in the game.

[Fake]

As I recall, people were able to solo some NQ kings before rage timer implementation, so whatever.

For someone that supposedly played this game back when kings were relevant you sure don't seem to grasp the fundamental differences between fafnir and behe/ada.

[Tymon]

btw: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31.../FafnirJin.jpg

Warrior's Charge wasn't in the game in 2004, as it was a category 2 merit introduced a few years later

I made time frame error talking about /drk and /brd, but it doesn't nullify my point. It's still the only way a NIN could hold hate off of BLMs for an entire fight, even if they were MBing. Before the rage timers, you would probably need a bunch of WHMs to support you, since in a prolonged fight they would all eventually run out of MP back then.

Not sure where that whole assault about zerg mentality came from, since that was 100% definitely not the case with the game even in 2007-2008 when /DRK and /BRD were in prime status. All of that stuff is Abyssea, and I guess old school Kirin burns with KC DRKs and stuff.

[blasphemy]

btw: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31.../FafnirJin.jpg

Warrior's Charge wasn't in the game in 2004, as it was a category 2 merit introduced a few years later

I made time frame error talking about /drk and /brd, but it doesn't nullify my point. It's still the only way a NIN could hold hate off of BLMs for an entire fight, even if they were MBing. Before the rage timers, you would probably need a bunch of WHMs to support you, since in a prolonged fight they would all eventually run out of MP back then.

Not sure where that whole assault about zerg mentality came from, since that was 100% definitely not the case with the game even in 2007-2008 when /DRK and /BRD were in prime status. All of that stuff is Abyssea, and I guess old school Kirin burns with KC DRKs and stuff.

Cause you and some other people said something about nin only being able to hold hate off blms/DD without /drk/brd which is not true. MB pulled very little hate. You could ancient MB and not pull hate back then with nin tanks. This is how thfs got parties back then, otherwise they would be waiting one week for an inv to an exp party. You didnt need alot of MP for a nin tank because their shadows absorbed most damage, but of course SE nerfed nin because they didn't want nin to be tanks.

[Byrthnoth]

Goddamn, a discussion of 2004 strategies with 2004-level understanding of game mechanics. This thread reminds me of the past without making me nostalgic.

[Spider-Dan]

For someone that supposedly played this game back when kings were relevant you sure don't seem to grasp the fundamental differences between fafnir and behe/ada.

As I said in first post, my LS never did kings. Otherwise, I would have been able to call BS/not BS without this thread.

[Darkmagi]

This thread is very stupid and all parties involved should be ashamed.

[Shadida]

When were WSNMs introduced? If you had Blade: Ku wouldn't you use that for the added TP in 2004? Remember each hit used to give full TP. Or was that fixed by 2004?

[Brill Weave]

And I've had enough of this fucking retardation.

[Ksandra]

gdi so late to the pt.

You fuckers make me feel old as I can't even remember jack shit about 2004 and can't even remember when people even started allowing nin tanks. Anyway, fwiw to the convo, I remember I was always surprised when JP lses got fafhogg because they didn't MB (at least on my server anyways). As well, their blms would spam lower nukes rather than once in awhile big ones. Made me always tell people I thought they knew something about hate generation that NA didn't. Could be to lessen hate spikes, so not sure if they used nin tanks at all with that.