Rolling stone new magazine cover, cop goes BEAHCAT and releases capture pics

[Abandon]

a bit, lol

[Bregor]

Also, plenty of people think, and especially thought then, that Hitler was a hero. -- Firstly, yes, people do think Manson is a hero. -- Once again, plenty of people think OJ is a hero.

People who think Hitler and Manson are heroes are summarily dismissed, and rightfully so, although I can't speak for how they were perceived in their own time. As for OJ, I'm not getting into a racial debate.

With Dzhokhar, people are "outraged" because of their own opinions, prejudices, and insecurities. I thought Monica Crowley was going to have an aneurism on the air talking about how sexy he was. They can't reconcile the acts he committed with how attractive they or people they know and trust think he is. People are just scared their wives or daughters are tweeting #FreeJahar, and somehow that will glamorize terrorism.

The cover of various magazines really, really matters. -- It's a really, really, really bad thing to tell people that if you want attention, go out and bomb some shit. You won't even just get the massive media coverage, you'll eventually be glamorously immortalized on the cover of the Rolling Stone.

Remember that article I posed on the First Amendment "going too far"? lol

There were plenty of people that felt the same, it just wasn't as publicized across mass media.

So Rolling Stone publishing that cover is a problem, but not the news media reporting a trumped-up "controversy" to get ratings until it becomes an actual controversy? Not trying to be cute, I'm actually interested in your opinion on the rest of the media's culpability.

There's also a significant difference between a newspaper and a pop culture magazine that dabbles in politics.

No. Rolling Stone can publish whatever the fuck it wants, just because people who don't read Rolling Stone still think it's a music magazine doesn't mean they have a responsibility to adhere to that label.

[Plow]

People who think Hitler and Manson are heroes are summarily dismissed,

and then they become tim mcveigh and terry whatshisface

With Dzhokhar, people are "outraged" because of their own opinions, prejudices, and insecurities. I thought Monica Crowley was going to have an aneurism on the air talking about how sexy he was. They can't reconcile the acts he committed with how attractive they or people they know and trust think he is. People are just scared their wives or daughters are tweeting #FreeJahar, and somehow that will glamorize terrorism.

Some, sure. That's certainly not my issue.

Remember that article I posed on the First Amendment "going too far"? lol

I really hope you're not implying that I am implying they don't have the right or should be in trouble.

Being allowed by the law doesn't make things people do not shitty.

So Rolling Stone publishing that cover is a problem, but not the news media reporting a trumped-up "controversy" to get ratings until it becomes an actual controversy? Not trying to be cute, I'm actually interested in your opinion on the rest of the media's culpability.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the controversy thing. Are you talking about other stuff?

No. Rolling Stone can publish whatever the fuck it wants, just because people who don't read Rolling Stone still think it's a music magazine doesn't mean they have a responsibility to adhere to that label.

They have responsibilities to do a lot of things they didn't do here; they don't have requirements.

[Bregor]

and then they become tim mcveigh and terry whatshisface

Sure, there are always going to be psychopaths and sociopaths, at least until we gain a better understanding of mental health.

I really hope you're not implying that I am implying they don't have the right or should be in trouble.

Being allowed by the law doesn't make things people do not shitty.

You seem to think the cover is an extremely dangerous thing for Rolling Stone to publish. I'm just trying to guess what you think the remedy is, other than "they should know better."

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the controversy thing. Are you talking about other stuff?

I have to watch cable news 24/7 at work so I hear a lot of bullshit. After the cover was released, I had to hear all the inflammatory language about how shocking and controversial it was, even before anyone of consequence had said it was shocking or controversial. They kept hammering away at it until people felt they had to voice an opinion, and no one wants to seem soft on terror so they all fell in line with the narrative. That's just the way I perceived the story anyway, if you have a different experience then that's fine.

[kuronosan]

I'm checking out of this argument. Sick of arguing semantics about something so stupid.

[Plow]

Sure, there are always going to be psychopaths and sociopaths, at least until we gain a better understanding of mental health.


You seem to think the cover is an extremely dangerous thing for Rolling Stone to publish. I'm just trying to guess what you think the remedy is, other than "they should know better."

Oh, they should know better is exactly it. I certainly don't think they should be legally punished. I hope more people boycott and shit than buy it, though.

I have to watch cable news 24/7 at work so I hear a lot of bullshit. After the cover was released, I had to hear all the inflammatory language about how shocking and controversial it was, even before anyone of consequence had said it was shocking or controversial. They kept hammering away at it until people felt they had to voice an opinion, and no one wants to seem soft on terror so they all fell in line with the narrative. That's just the way I perceived the story anyway, if you have a different experience then that's fine.

I think it was a controversy the instant anyone saw it. I do agree with the perspective Colbert gave about how retarded it is for all these people that are pissed off about RS doing this cover just to get attention giving it a bunch of big public attention, though.

I don't think it's a "manufactured" controversy though, unless you want to count RS doing it intentionally as such.

[Bregor]

Fair enough, I think we're generally on the same page then.