EVO 2014: Euro will never Top 8

[Krandor]

I dunno if I'm actually gonna play her, I mostly played Valentine and Cerebella when I was playing around release, just spent some time in the lab with her today with error 3102 shitting on my weekend plans (and AE crashing on me in a match costing me 200pp and causing excess sodium levels).

[Krandor]

That video you sent me is a fuckton more involved then what I saw doing, my combo was pretty goddamn vanilla by comparison.

LP, MK, HK, jump, air MK (all hits), air HK (one hit), HK dive kick, DP -> QCB+KK, QCF+MK, LP, MP, HP + finisher (any of the various qcf moves or dp for different positioning).

Is her only reliable jump in the MK dive kick? Can't really get a consistent link into standing LP off of anything else.

[Cjskater]

I dont think you can link off of lk divekick (good for resets though)*, mk divekick is a mid, hk divekick is a high. You can use j.mk or j.hk as well, then cancel that when it hits into mk divekick for an easier link.

edit: *nevermind you can, it has to be done really low

[Krandor]

You can use j.mk or j.hk as well, then cancel that when it hits into mk divekick for an easier link.

Yeah I figured that one out.

[Krandor]

Also,

So if you do Squiggly's qcf+mk twice in a combo, it'll break it as soon as the character is pulled in. Is her command grab Super zero frame? You can see where I'm going with this lol.

[Cjskater]

nah you can jump out of it, its 1 or 2f or something, starts after the flash.

[Thulius]

I dont think you can link off of lk divekick (good for resets though)*, mk divekick is a mid, hk divekick is a high. You can use j.mk or j.hk as well, then cancel that when it hits into mk divekick for an easier link.

edit: *nevermind you can, it has to be done really low

Squigly's j.LK is pretty good too. The crossup hitbox isn't great compared to j.MK but it comes out quick, has nice horizontal range and good hitstun. You can still do some pretty tricky stuff with it because of the way super jumps/double jumps correct themselves and you don't have to commit to it as early in a jump as other moves.

Also, command grab super is 0 frames if you do it during the flash on the charged version of qcf+mp. You have a ton of time to confirm they're still on the ground and it's much harder to punish than whiffing the super itself.

[Cjskater]

Also, command grab super is 0 frames if you do it during the flash on the charged version of qcf+mp.

That is weird, nice to know

[Akiyama]

LOL

[Sho]

Sounds like I missed a lot of nonsense while I was playing FFXIV, lol.

[Chun Liroy]

Oh my god this DHC with vergil is 10x better and 10x easier -.-

Level 4 frank and 1.1M damage (starting with 1 bar Frank on point), or level 5 frank and 880k. That's full team
Level 5 Frank and 830k damage, -.2 bar net. or 1.05M and level 3 frank. Frank/Vergil only, no dante.

Improved my vergil level up frank bnb too..Starting with 1 bar, 814k, level 5 frank. used to only get about 750k~

All off cr. L and level 1 frank.

[Thulius]

Now all you need to do is land a hit with level 1 Frank!

[Chun Liroy]

Now all you need to do is land a hit with level 1 Frank!

yeah x.x

good thing vergil is on point! Working on his blockstrings now!

[Callisto]

I'm still pretty iffy on that team composition. I'm assuming Dante is your anchor, he's relatively decent enough with XF3, but still you're basically in a position where if you don't get first touch, you're down to your anchor pretty much instantly, with what would be your best XF3 character already dead.

[Chun Liroy]

I'm still pretty iffy on that team composition. I'm assuming Dante is your anchor, he's relatively decent enough with XF3, but still you're basically in a position where if you don't get first touch, you're down to your anchor pretty much instantly, with what would be your best XF3 character already dead.

It also removes vergil's only weakness (incoming) and most of the time, if he gets put in the back, he'll have DT with access to a double jump. Also, it puts him in his best position (2nd). If vergil dies (let's be real, this should rarely happen) before I get a hit, then you still have the VERY strong Frank west/dante shell. 1 hit = frank level 5 at this point. Really, at any point tbh, this point especially. If you have dante on point, then should he die, you lose access to jam session, which is pretty much frank west's best assist. Shopping cart is good, but vergil uses it a lot better. And while I don't disagree that vergil is clearly the best anchor on the team, people sleep on 2 things a lot: point vergil, and anchor dante A LOT. Vergil beats literally every point character in the game, so that eliminates the wolverine match up (dante's worst match up imo). Also, while not derpderpvergil, Dante XF comeback potential is there. Optimal XF3 combos take 1/3 of XF time, and then leads into straight up 50/50s. If all goes according to plan, as well, frank dying on point leads to the correct order for Vergil/Dante shell.

And to top it all off, if you get a hit on vergil, are you gonna snap in frank? Vergil has low health, but if you get a hit, I hope you kill him with 1 super, because frank has 1.05M health. With dante behind him, even level 1 frank becomes a threat. And you always have safe DHC with probably the 2nd most invincible level 1 hyper (behind morrigan) in the game, into devil trigger.

Also, Zeus da bess

[Callisto]

The judges would have also accepted 'KBrad is a fraud'

[Callisto]

derp as shit and you can just dp out, but universal on whole cast lol...

[Don Katsu]

Zeus is like the third best Vega in NA

[Chun Liroy]

Zeus is like the best Vega in NA

ftfy

only person i'd even consider is Chris King. They are 1/2

[Don Katsu]

Is this going to be like the time you were trying to tell me Aquasilk was better than Snakeeyes?