EVO 2014: Euro will never Top 8

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-07-23 14:37

Originally Posted by Callisto

It's kinda funny, while I could see calling Viscant 'bad'(strictly relative to other top players, let's face it, he's not going to win another EVO anytime soon), he's probably one of the smartest/most knowledgeable guys at the game which is how he won the one time he did, if anything he's absolutely the guy I'd listen to patch suggestions from.

The best person, IMO, would be rayray. He knows the most about the game out of anyone besides maybe Bum.

**The Blackrose** · 2013-07-23 14:38

I'd actually pause and listen to what RayRay has to say. I think he has the chops for it. Alukard and Jay? lol, fuck no.

**Akiyama** · 2013-07-23 14:39

Ray yeah, I'd rather listen to RayRay over Alukard and Unknown any day of the week. Unkown is dumbtarded.

I'd listen to Viscant too, though. He may suck, and have shitty execution, but he has at least an understanding.

Ain't watching the stream, though.

**Sho** · 2013-07-23 14:40

Real talk, I'd listen to Viscant before I'd listen to any of you dudes, and more than 80% of the Marvel community.

Niggas should show some respect.

**Krandor** · 2013-07-23 14:42

Originally Posted by Sho

Real talk, I'd listen to Viscant before I'd listen to any of you dudes, and more than 80% of the Marvel community.

Niggas should show some respect.

Evo Champ and been doing this for a decade plus now. He's more then earned the right to have people listen to him.

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-07-23 14:42

I think Viscant has a good knowledge about different types of strategies, but his knowledge about certain characters and non-black and white mechanics are lacking compared to others imo.

**Akiyama** · 2013-07-23 14:43

Exactly, but hey, he isn't young or flashy with the combos and shit, so why listen to him? Old man washed up, etc.

That's the understanding of a lot of the retarded Marvel audience.

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-07-23 14:45

I don't think Unknown gets enough respect around here imo. He makes it pretty far at any tourny he's at, and he knows a bit about the game, at least his characters. He ain't dumb if he's being serious.

**Krandor** · 2013-07-23 14:45

Also he's white.

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-07-23 14:47

Originally Posted by Akiyama

Exactly, but hey, he isn't young or flashy with the combos and shit, so why listen to him? Old man washed up, etc.

That's the understanding of a lot of the retarded Marvel audience.

I don't disagree with any of what ya'll are saying, but to be fair, I'd trust alukard's iron man and unknown wesker changes more than Viscant. Honzo was making fun of his Spencer changes though, lol, but he was dumb.

**Krandor** · 2013-07-23 14:49

The important thing to really take away is that the entire Marvel community is getting trolled by Ono.

There's no dev team, no budget for it, and licensing issues. Plus, you know, ONO is the motherfucker who made the comment, while wearing a goddamn Chun-Li outfit.

**Sho** · 2013-07-23 14:51

Originally Posted by Akiyama

Exactly, but hey, he isn't young or flashy with the combos and shit, so why listen to him? Old man washed up, etc.

That's the understanding of a lot of the retarded Marvel audience.

That's not even the problem. These 09ers just don't understand that Viscant is just as old as Wong, Combofiend, and others. He was just caught up with Phoenix and became the face of a broken Dark Phoenix (also known as a villain), a huge problem of vanilla. He was then called out as fraud and never recovered from it.

Who do you think was calling out Vergil & Zero for being broken in late 2011? He literally predicted the shift of the metagame from Wesker and DP to Vergil and Zero, as well as the broken TAC mechanic.

**Callisto** · 2013-07-23 14:51

Originally Posted by Krandor

The important thing to really take away is that the entire Marvel community is getting trolled by Ono.

This lol, Marvel patch is in the bucket with Alex in Ultra

**Krandor** · 2013-07-23 14:51

**Callisto** · 2013-07-23 14:52

I found a half-hour in-depth Jill tutorial.

In Spanish

**octopus** · 2013-07-23 14:53

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

He makes it pretty far at any tourny he's at, and he knows a bit about the game

btw, Viscant made top 32 at evo. Unknown lost in quarterfinals. Viscant is not a scrub.

**Akiyama** · 2013-07-23 15:00

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

I don't disagree with any of what ya'll are saying, but to be fair, I'd trust alukard's iron man and unknown wesker changes more than Viscant. Honzo was making fun of his Spencer changes though, lol, but he was dumb.

No, I know, but it just feels like you're falling in with these guys like a sheep because you're a huge fan of Ray Ray and all that shit. I respect ya, but I don't think enough respect is given to a guy who's been at this for a lot longer than you've probably known what a dragon punch was. :< Also I would expect Alukard and Unknown to know more about characters they've mained forever. Granted I respect Viscant's basic Wesker too.

Originally Posted by Krandor

The important thing to really take away is that the entire Marvel community is getting trolled by Ono.

There's no dev team, no budget for it, and licensing issues. Plus, you know, ONO is the motherfucker who made the comment, while wearing a goddamn Chun-Li outfit.

LOL I know right? Ono's probably like 'dafuq these american doing?! mahvel sux'

Originally Posted by Sho

That's not even the problem. These 09ers just don't understand that Viscant is just as old as Wong, Combofiend, and others. He was just caught up with Phoenix and became the face of a broken Dark Phoenix (also known as a villain), a huge problem of vanilla. He was then called out as fraud and never recovered from it.

Who do you think was calling out Vergil & Zero for being broken in late 2011? He literally predicted the shift of the metagame from Wesker and DP to Vergil and Zero, as well as the broken TAC mechanic.

I remember that. Think he said something like that on Crosscounter. Like..Phoenix is a problem now, but characters like Zero and Vergil would be moreso down the line in Ultimate.

Originally Posted by octopus

btw, Viscant made top 32 at evo. Unknown lost in quarterfinals. Viscant is not a scrub.

But but Viscant is bad! How could that be! It's almost like UMVC3 doesn't have a massive random factor you could never actually fix or something!

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-07-23 15:13

Originally Posted by octopus

btw, Viscant made top 32 at evo. Unknown lost in quarterfinals. Viscant is not a scrub.

I don't recall saying otherwise.

Top 32 evo doesn't mean much, just ask welt. Or Zack.

Zack made top 8 so obv. he isn't a scrub (lol).

@Calli, Paulow2b probably, amirite?

**Callisto** · 2013-07-23 15:15

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

@Calli, Paulow2b probably, amirite?

Yeah, I was like oh sweet this one's almost 30 minutes, probably has a lot of-GODDAMN MEXICANS DONE TOOK ERR JERRBBSS

**octopus** · 2013-07-23 15:15

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

I don't recall saying otherwise.

But Alukard did!

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