EVO 2014: Euro will never Top 8

[Don Katsu]

Spiritzero also going on..



Infiltration already in losers

[Don Katsu]

http://twitch.tv/team_spiritzero

If laugh wins the next match he has to play Infiltration in losers

[Don Katsu]

Holy shit Infiltration... that GF was free lol

He went into 2012 mode against PoongKO

[Chun Liroy]

SEAM gf were really bad IMO. Yoko DPs everywhere... I guess that's to be expected from momochi vs kazunoko

[Don Katsu]

SEAM gf were really bad IMO. Yoko DPs everywhere... I guess that's to be expected from momochi vs kazunoko

Momochi did that so Kazunoko would stop trying to command throw him on wake up.

It also seemed like Tokido, Xian, Bonchan and Fuudo had trouble playing footsies with the change in Ken's walkspeed. When neutral you have to keep that character away from you, if he walks faster that's going to be hard to do.

[Deejay]

Lol so who said ken was wack now?

[Chun Liroy]

Momochi did that so Kazunoko would stop trying to command throw him on wake up.

It also seemed like Tokido, Xian, Bonchan and Fuudo had trouble playing footsies with the change in Ken's walkspeed. When neutral you have to keep that character away from you, if he walks faster that's going to be hard to do.

Then backdash... why would you DP. I want to say more were blocked than hit on either side tbh. A lot of Dps were done post grounded tatsu. I get that that's the mixup, but it seems so low reward/high risk...

There was a match where momochi focus'd 4 times in a row(in neutral), and then threw 4 times in a row, it was hilarious.

[Deejay]

At that level, it's mind games breh. It's not his fault if kaz sucks at baiting. He likes to play the relentless style too which kinda makes sense for momo to play that way. Wong for sure ain't eatting 4 DPs in a row because he's way more self aware, but other people might not realize and keep going in

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Fei Long got third too for the people that said he sucks ;o and 2 gens in top 16.

[Chun Liroy]

At that level, it's mind games breh. It's not his fault if kaz sucks at baiting. He likes to play the relentless style too which kinda makes sense for momo to play that way. Wong for sure ain't eatting 4 DPs in a row because he's way more self aware, but other people might do that

I guess I just prefer the mindgames where Daigo dashes 5 times and throws you than "FUCK IT, GONNA DP LIKE ITS ONLINE."

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When Daigo does a dp and it hits though, it's the umeshoryu.

[Don Katsu]

Then backdash... why would you DP. I want to say more were blocked than hit on either side tbh. A lot of Dps were done post grounded tatsu. I get that that's the mixup, but it seems so low reward/high risk...

There was a match where momochi focus'd 4 times in a row(in neutral), and then threw 4 times in a row, it was hilarious.

backdashes won't stop your opponent or make them afraid. DPs will. Backdashes also get OS's... like Kazunoko did everytime he would backdash

DPs will always be a threat to command throws

[Chun Liroy]

When Daigo does a dp and it hits though, it's the umeshoryu.

Whatevs. There were no footsies involved, and every time a DP landed, the other would DP on wake up and it just looked super sloppy. It looked like an online scrub match, but because it's japanese players it's high level mind games. I guess I'm just ignorant and sure I'll get shit on for saying that.

If that's how Ultra is going to look going into the future, count me out.

[Chun Liroy]

backdashes won't stop your opponent or make them afraid. DPs will. Backdashes also get OS's... like Kazunoko did everytime he would backdash

DPs will always be a threat to command throws

You can OS a backdash post Yun's command throw...? Thought that shit had a long ass recovery.

[Don Katsu]

You can OS a backdash post Yun's command throw...? Thought that shit had a long ass recovery.

No...Momochi would do DPs to let Kazunoko know he can't pressure Ken on his wake up. It worked, Kazunoko stop command throwing him, Kazunoko was afraid of pressing buttons on a rising Ken. Also Kazunoko started to do dive kicks while Ken was walking forward resulting in Momochi doing jump back/forward roundhouse which will beat dive kicks due to the high amount of active frames (7)

Ken's backdash is also really bad, so that wake up option actually sucks.

Lol so who said ken was wack now?

https://twitter.com/PR_Balrog/status/470290176062009344

But also...

Momochi's Ken owns Kazunoko's soul

This is the first time Kazunoko has won more than 2 games...

back in .ver2012

There was a tongeki match were Momochi beat Kazunoko 5-2... shortly aftwards Topanga A online round Momochi beat him 3-0, then offline he beat Kazunoko 7-0.

[Deejay]

GGs calli, gtg to the gym but I'll bbl

[Deejay]

Whatevs. There were no footsies involved, and every time a DP landed, the other would DP on wake up and it just looked super sloppy. It looked like an online scrub match, but because it's japanese players it's high level mind games. I guess I'm just ignorant and sure I'll get shit on for saying that.

If that's how Ultra is going to look going into the future, count me out.

1. The Yun/Ken matchup has 0 footsies because Ken can't keep Yun on the ground and Yun doesn't want to be there anyway. Why would a dive kick character play a grounded game if he doesn't have to? That's like saying Gief shouldn't pressure Cody on his wake up "bc footsies bro"

2. Kaz has stated many times that one of the reasons he plays Yun is bc he doesn't have to rely on footsies to win. His footsie game sucks so why not play a character that allows you to get in and mix up without that barrier.

3. Calm down with your knee jerking

[Don Katsu]

1. The Yun/Ken matchup has 0 footsies because Ken can't keep Yun on the ground and Yun doesn't want to be there anyway. Why would a dive kick character play a grounded game if he doesn't have to? That's like saying Gief shouldn't pressure Cody on his wake up "bc footsies bro"

2. Kaz has stated many times that one of the reasons he plays Yun is bc he doesn't have to rely on footsies to win. His footsie game sucks so why not play a character that allows you to get in and mix up without that barrier.

3. Calm down with your knee jerking

naw the Yun/Ken match up has some footsies on Ken's part. Viper and Yun on the other hand.....

[Akiyama]

Also guys come on. If the yolo DP hits, it's yomi. If it misses, it's just a bad read.

[Don Katsu]

Also guys come on. If the yolo DP hits, it's yomi. If it misses, it's just a bad read.

If your random DP connects it was a good read. If it misses you're a noob.