EVO 2014: Euro will never Top 8

**Moridam** · 2013-08-08 14:43

i wasn't following much in the FG world during DOA4's time, so i definitely missed that. i can only imagine how bad that must've been.

**Gryffes** · 2013-08-08 14:55

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

http://www.twitch.tv/worldoftanks
Jesus christ... 2k people watching on twitch.

How is the FGC so fucking bad at getting money?

World of Tanks is really popular, like lol/dota popular in eastern europe and asia.
The publisher is throwing money at the esports sector of it because it maintains interest and brings in new players.

They can throw $500k a year at esports because it makes them more than $500k/year at esports.

Lots of games that get "esport money" in reality get PR money that is spent on tournaments instead of advertising. Think NRS games and the money they add

Examples: UT @CPL, Painkiller at CPL, riot at x ( before lol got massive and it was the lolf2p version of hon ).

Capcom/Namco don't have any reason to throw that kind of money at the scene, unless someone can convince them it will benefit them to the same degree the above examples did.

Why is it in someways good? The FGCs ability to run events off its on back without relying on that kind of temporary money injection is fucking amazing.

A lot of the time when that PR money dries up the game dies as the pro scene dies and the pros and their followers move on to the next game that a PR team decides to throw money at.

The FGC won't suffer that fate.

**The Blackrose** · 2013-08-08 15:24

Be advised: +R will be at TRB tonight and will most likely be getting stream time.

**Callisto** · 2013-08-08 15:25

Any killers out in that area? Need wherever the hell it is that Latif plays to get it lol

**Vandole** · 2013-08-08 15:28

viq trying to be hard makes me lol. ok triforce.

will be streaming a yatagrasu lobby tonight sometime. prolly 9 est.

**The Blackrose** · 2013-08-08 15:29

I think Paul (SuperFX) is heading up that way tonight and bringing his entourage. Not sure who's a killer out there beyond that.

**Cjskater** · 2013-08-08 15:55

Originally Posted by The Blackrose

Be advised: +R will be at TRB tonight and will most likely be getting stream time.

Do you ever type or say TBR on accident?

**Correction** · 2013-08-08 15:56

Originally Posted by Chun Liroy

Fuck Dota 2. So ZZzzzzz

LGD vs Alliance game one just went 62 minutes and was a lot of fun to watch. I don't know shit about DOTA 2 but I can recognize basic mechanics and the basic momentum of the game.

**Vandole** · 2013-08-08 16:02

Dota 2 is fucking great to watch. As normal liroy is liroy

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-08-08 16:05

I watched it for 20 minutes and nothing was happening, so I tuned into Saltybets and had the best time ever.

So, no it's not liroy being liroy. Shit is boring to watch and I don't feel like waiting 50 minutes for anything interesting to happen.

E: Explain to me why it takes 5 minutes to select characters. That shit really don't make sense at all.

**The Blackrose** · 2013-08-08 16:12

It's the counterpicking process. 2 bans for each side, then 2 picks each, then another 2 bans each side, then 2 picks, then 1 ban each, then 1 pick.

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-08-08 16:15

Originally Posted by The Blackrose

It's the counterpicking process. 2 bans for each side, then 2 picks each, then another 2 bans each side, then 2 picks, then 1 ban each, then 1 pick.

I guess that makes more sense. But I just don't understand how this takes so long to make a decision?

**Krandor** · 2013-08-08 16:16

A lot of people disagree obviously, but I find MOBAs boring as all hell to watch.

**The Blackrose** · 2013-08-08 16:17

You have to figure out who can play a particular character to counter what their opponent is showing at the time, assuming the desired counterpick character is not banned or already selected (no mirror matches). Each phase is limited to a certain amount of time with 2 minute reserve time to make sure it doesn't take forever.

EDIT: It's like putting a time limit on BALA trying to figure out how to counterpick MadKOF in 2012.

**Callisto** · 2013-08-08 16:22

Originally Posted by Krandor

A lot of people disagree obviously, but I find MOBAs boring as all hell to watch.

^

**Chun Liroy** · 2013-08-08 16:27

I agree, but I'm trying to give it a chance. I didn't watch the latter portion of the last match because salty bets was much more engaging to me.

But it seems like people get the most hype over pvp... so why not just watch fighting games, Kappa.

**Tohmane** · 2013-08-08 16:30

All of you trying to be e-thugs are ridiculous, "OGs" and "09'ers" alike. Grabbed Yatagarasu but all those ? in the launcher, need me some language packs it seems.

**Cjskater** · 2013-08-08 16:30

Originally Posted by Krandor

A lot of people disagree obviously, but I find MOBAs boring as all hell to watch.

Originally Posted by Callisto

^

Fully with you here

Originally Posted by Tohmane

All of you trying to be e-thugs are ridiculous, "OGs" and "09'ers" alike. Grabbed Yatagarasu but all those ? in the launcher, need me some language packs it seems.

Open the manual pdf file, there's a translation of the launcher options thing in there.

**Vandole** · 2013-08-08 16:32

open up the manual. it has a guide for that. run the game in applocale and you're good. when i'm done writing this article for eg we can play iffin you want. i'm able to play japanese people with minimal lag so i imagine we'd be fine

on an elitist note: dota is not part of the moba genre. dota is its own genre. lol didn't HAVE a genre until they coined the term moba. hon called itself dota genre as well initially. riot didn't want to call it what it is so they coined it. but dota is not a moba.

Spoiler: show

**Callisto** · 2013-08-08 16:35

sopa, yoda, whatever, it's boring

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