Monstrosity: Abilities and General Mechanics

[Fireon]

SAM instinct is also useful if you have nothing better. More Store TP is always good!

[dasva]

So chigoes attack problems got moved to not a bug without even a response... so guess it's just an FU it's going to stay broken like blu spells. Word to the wise don't fight things with attack down on it... and if you do take screenshots of the double digit att at pretty much any lvl and spam SE with it lol

[Fwahm]

Badly balanced things aren't bugs, so they were right to remove it.

[dasva]

Well I don't think they really thought it would stack addivitely to the point where you would have 0 att...unless the faster attack speed stacks with haste to get no delay lol. Regardless it's something that is broken and needs to be fixed

[Asymptotic]

You have ~50% attack and ~50% delay, sounds intentional.

[Karbuncle]

I think having 0 TP Moves more than makes up for the Delay reduction, But thats just me... I can see how SE needs to balancehammer it i suppose in their own twisted logic.

[dasva]

I can sorta accept a small -att for a small delay. But the way it stacks with the att down stat is kinda rediculous. So unless haste stacks in a similiar rediculous manner not sure how balanced that is. I mean leech moves will litterally drop me to double digit attack at lvl 60 cause it's -90% total or more if you get a bio in there and I doubt we will get to a -90% delay or more lol

[Fwahm]

So don't fight things with -attack moves. The low attack of chigoes means that +attack % instincts will be especially effective. Put Bugard III on a Chigoe, and your 60% attack goes up to 85%, an almost 42% increase. I'm sure there will be more Attack + % Augments in the future, and perhaps when monsters can party, you can ask for someone to do an AoE attack boost.

[dasva]

Kinda missing the entire point but yes might have to get bugard instinct well after testing it's speed and how it stacks with haste to make sure not losing more than gaining lol and ya know finishing vermin path.

[Karbuncle]

So don't fight things with -attack moves.

Also have to consider how much DEF Bonus TP moves will suck even more as well, which makes Crabs and Crawlers a chore... Crawlers also have the added benefit of slowing you making your one distinct advantage meaningless(Which wont matter as much post 45 when you can be the BLM chigoe).

Then of course theres the attack down moves, Worms, Triple Bats, and Leeches... Sure i'm forgetting some and its even worse if you consider Bio. Regardless, 1-45 on this thing sucks unreasonably, but I suppose once you unlock BLM you're supposed to switch a nuke heavy combat style?

[dasva]

Regardless chigoe is the better thf. Got this thing is awesome though the dia on searing seems resistable or something. Never seems to work on dark mobs and sometimes IT++ mobs. Spiral burst is a nice clinch full erase. Spin is still nice dmg move though. And rdm subjob woot

Side note anyone think they will make the currently useless spells/jts useful eventually? I mean assassin, gilfinder, th just to name the ones I have right now lol

[Fwahm]

Fighting mobs with defense up buffs as a chigoe is no different than with any other mob, with regards to how much their defense buff reduces your damage in percentage.

100 attack vs 100 defense going to 100 attack vs 150 defense is a -33% damage penalty (roughly)

60 attack vs 100 defense going to 60 attack vs 150 defense is still a -33% damage penalty (again, roughly).

[dasva]

That's true on EM and lower. Except when it lowers you to zero.... but on T and above level correct will make the percent changes in Cratio be unequal

[dasva]

Oh ladybug had a 10% att bonus and no def bonus. Crawler has a 10% att bonus and 20% def bonus. Cocoon seems to be straight up +100% def that stacks with the native bonus so only really an 83% increase still would be pretty nice if it didn't have a 10 second duration. Almost comical that 15 seconds of hundred fist is ok but 100% def oh shit that needs only 10 sec lol

[NynJa]

So don't fight things with -attack moves. The low attack of chigoes means that +attack % instincts will be especially effective. Put Bugard III on a Chigoe, and your 60% attack goes up to 85%, an almost 42% increase. I'm sure there will be more Attack + % Augments in the future, and perhaps when monsters can party, you can ask for someone to do an AoE attack boost.

Does no one notice the irony that he mentioned using Bugard III? Implying you'd need Bugard lv90 to begin with...which, unless I missed the memo, is unobtainable at the moment?

[dasva]

I thought the irony was in the process of slighlty compensating for it's massive attack defencies you were lowering the 1 strength it had lol. Would be funny to go all the way. Use up a bunch of instincts to end up with the same attack speed and att as the other monsters lol.

[NynJa]

oh man I just looked at that
slow+10?!?!?! dafuq

[Damane]

gnole sucks hardcore to lvl... but maybe thats because its right now 0% new moon and gnole is dependend on moonphases ¬.¬

dear lord I never died so many times at low lvl like with gnole

[Karbuncle]

Gnoles are dependent on Moon phase atm >_>.

Its a feature they're thinking of adding lol.

[Damane]

Gnoles are dependent on Moon phase atm >_>.

Its a feature they're thinking of adding lol.

seriously my accuracy currently at 0% new moon is like asstastic, I am whiffing left and right