Monstrosity: Abilities and General Mechanics

**Hashmalum** · 2013-09-11 13:57

Originally Posted by dasva

Heat barrier- lvl 10, 100 tp. They both effects seem fairly potent even at low lvls. Duration seems odd. The spikes seem static at 3 min but the enfire seems to be a little higher and going up as I lvl... like at first it was barely over 3 min and now at 14 it's a little over 4 min. Edit: now it's back down to a little over 3 min... not sure why it is going up then back down uggg

Sounds like either a bug, or it is similar to the way that summoning magic skill is related to Blood Pact: Ward durations. With Blood Pact: Ward, what matters isn't your summoning magic skill itself, but rather how far it is over the cap. If the ability is based on some hidden "skill" in the same way the Blood Pact: Ward is, which in turn is set to level times a flat constant, it would explain what you are seeing. At low levels, the difference in skill caps between adjacent levels is small, so the flat constant multiplier is overrunning it and ramping your duration way up; as your level increases, however, the skill cap increase per level is larger than the multiplier, causing your "skill" to fall behind. Eventually it drops back under the cap and you start seeing flat minimum durations again.

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-09-11 14:16

For Wild Ginseng, the buffs just had a random duration that was about 3:30 to 4:30.

**dasva** · 2013-09-11 15:37

Working with it more it seemed like duration was reseting after zoning as weird as that zones. Like I go to new zone and it's back to barely over 3 min start fighting and watch it steadily increase until it gets to over almost 5 min. Of course that's limited samples since the blaze spikes on it last a flat 3 minutes and are potent enough where you don't want to spend a decent portion of your time with it down so keep overwriting the enfire

**dasva** · 2013-09-12 23:42

So yeah 50 wamouracampa gets no moves but you unlock mothra and it has just magma fan at 100% tp. Also it has the same 10% att boost and 30% def boost as the campa. Got erratic flutter by 60. 150 tp

**dasva** · 2013-09-13 02:30

So in a fit of boredom I decided to model Vitriolic shower since it's a pretty decent AOE move on a monster that walks so slow it breaks chains <.<. Given the nature of monstrosity I have limited data points but so far this fits with what I can do easily. If anyone has anything to add all ears

D= 5(lvl+2) +1.5(dint).

Subject to resists day/weather mab and other magic multipliers with appropriate floorings

Sadly there are few good int instincts and wamoura is half retarded. ie I have base 34 int right now but 70 vit lol. But yeah don't really see much useful to instinct for it that justifies the cost so guess I'll leave it be

Started crawler again. Poison breath is yellow model only. You have incinerate at 30 on eruca model only. 150 tp

**Trumpy** · 2013-09-20 07:32

Looks like Gnoles and wamoracampa are gettin "Mode a" abilities (speculating changin forms like rolling up for the roach and standing up for the werewolf) they aslo mentioned different moves available in these modes.

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-09-20 09:01

Only available on v4.1 (testing version) so far because it uses packet injection, but:

It also changes names for you if you prefer to be different names on different species.

**dasva** · 2013-09-28 16:33

Not sure if already reported but merit spells you get are only of initial strength possibly a little lower. Extra merits don't add duration at the very least. Dia III was consistently only 25 seconds long when I have 4 merits in it. I'd imagine potency doesn't work either also I didn't get any of the job trait merits at all

**Seol** · 2013-09-30 13:38

Speaking of merits, are merited job traits like double/triple attack or -cure casting times/Elemental affinity/acc granted? or just spells?

**Damane** · 2013-09-30 14:12

Originally Posted by Seol

Speaking of merits, are merited job traits like double/triple attack or -cure casting times/Elemental affinity/acc granted? or just spells?

only spells i think

**dasva** · 2013-09-30 14:24

Lol yeah I put didn't get traits right above that...

**Draylo** · 2013-09-30 14:29

Did you put in a bug report?

**dasva** · 2013-09-30 14:53

I just kinda assumed working as intended. Might be hard for them to make just 1 merit work on those but not work on traits you already have

**Khiinroye** · 2013-10-07 13:32

Ctrl - J still brings up the tp move list for monsters. Job abilities can be accessed from the menu, command line, or in macros.

**dasva** · 2013-10-07 14:47

So what's up with the jas? Any word on what we get and don't?

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-10-07 14:57

You get the JAs/Traits of your main job and all the spells of your main/sub.

**dasva** · 2013-10-07 14:59

Do you no longer get traits of your sub? And all job abilities?

**Nitrous24** · 2013-10-07 15:06

Correct, while playin around on my level 65 byakko, i noticed i no longer have triple attack, evasion bonus, etc.. and only have whm jas.. white rabbit has all the spells it had before, but only warrior JAs/Traits

**dasva** · 2013-10-07 15:36

Well that is highly odd. Wonder if any stats changed too

**Fireon** · 2013-10-07 15:57

I can confirm that you do not need any specific job at any level on your main character in order to use regular JAs as a monster. I just dinged 77 Couerl and am now able to use Restraint. WAR is lvl 50 on my character.

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