Optimal Armor Sets Discussion/Compendium(Last update: Aug 10th, 2013)

**Francisco** · 2013-08-13 19:18

If I say "fucking" enough, can I be right too?

**Fake** · 2013-08-14 02:05

Well you certainly couldn't be much more wrong suggesting DPS numbers between 200-400. So give it a shot.

**tharon** · 2013-08-14 02:52

Anyone Have good DRG gear sets, trying to optimize dps. Please and Thank you.

**Tarage** · 2013-08-14 03:52

Give me a few days and I'll try to come up with good sets for SMN. At the very least it will be a good start.

**Dominico** · 2013-08-14 15:38

I'm probably wrong on a couple of things, but from what I've gathered these appear to be the optimal stuff for DRG. Please correct me if theres better options (ws set might use some corrections), but people don't really post gear sets for DRG too often. At the very least this could cause someone to fix what I've listed and give perfect sets.

Standard TP (low acc):

Weapon: Upukirex
Sub: Duplus Grip
Ammo: Hagneia Stone
Head: Yaoyotl Helm
Neck: Ganesha's Mala
Earrings: Steelflash Earring, Bladeborn Earring
Body: Lancer's Plackart +2
Hands: Mikinaak Gauntlets
Rings: K'ayres Ring, Rajas Ring
Back: Atheling Mantle
Waist: Goading Belt
Legs: Phorcys Dirs
Feet: Mikinaak Greaves

Stardiver:

Weapon: Upukirex
Sub: Duplus Grip
Ammo: Hagneia Stone
Head: Yaoyotl Helm
Neck: Ganesha's Mala
Earrings: Brutal Earring, Moonshade Earring
Body: Mikinaak Breastplate
Hands: Mikinaak Gauntlets
Rings: Pyrosoul Ring, Rajas Ring
Back: Atheling Mantle
Waist: Windbuffet Belt
Legs: Mikinaak Cuisses
Feet: Karieyh Sollerets

**Tymon** · 2013-08-14 18:52

Originally Posted by Dominico

I'm probably wrong on a couple of things, but from what I've gathered these appear to be the optimal stuff for DRG. Please correct me if theres better options (ws set might use some corrections), but people don't really post gear sets for DRG too often. At the very least this could cause someone to fix what I've listed and give perfect sets.

Standard TP (low acc):

Weapon: Upukirex
Sub: Duplus Grip
Ammo: Hagneia Stone
Head: Yaoyotl Helm
Neck: Ganesha's Mala
Earrings: Steelflash Earring, Bladeborn Earring
Body: Lancer's Plackart +2
Hands: Ares' Flanchard +1
Rings: K'ayres Ring, Rajas Ring
Back: Atheling Mantle
Waist: Goading Belt
Legs: Ares' Flanchard +1
Feet: Mikinaak Greaves B

Stardiver:

Weapon: Upukirex
Sub: Duplus Grip
Ammo: Hagneia Stone
Head: Yaoyotl Helm
Neck: Soil Gorget
Earrings: Brutal Earring, Moonshade Earring
Body: Phorcys Korazin
Hands: Phorcys Mitts
Rings: Pyrosoul Ring, Rajas Ring
Back: Atheling Mantle
Waist: Soil Belt
Legs: Mikinaak Cuisses
Feet: Whirlpool Greaves / Mikinaak Greaves A

ares +1 hands / legs in TP, if not owned then Quauhpili instead of Yaoyotl also on TP

Elemental gorget/belt beats mala/windbuffet significantly on WS, Phorcys body/hands beats Mikinaak with the new stat changes if you have enough buffs. Whirlpool and Mikinaak feet R15 STR are equal to each other for WS, both are better than Karieyh

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**tharon** · 2013-08-15 15:51

Should i assume you just use the +1 ares hands to get more DA? otherwise they fall short by miles of rank 15 miki hands

**Darkmagi** · 2013-08-15 17:43

3DA and you're already likely capped on acc/atk.

**Taint** · 2013-08-15 18:02

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

3DA and you're already likely capped on acc/atk.

But lose your 5hit.

My fulls sets are on my SC http://www.pastebin.com/u/bwool40

Basic Xhit

Spoiler: show

Basic Stardiver

Spoiler: show

**Darkmagi** · 2013-08-15 18:07

How does that lose your 5hit? Losing out on 3% ta and 2% DA to have a true 5hit does not seem worth it to me at all. You can ws in a small amount of STP gear for an insignificant DPS loss on WS for even less of a chance to lose 5hit too. That or setup your xml so you switch to a higher STP tp setup if your tp return was below x amount.

**Taint** · 2013-08-15 18:18

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

How does that lose your 5hit? Losing out on 3% ta and 2% DA to have a true 5hit does not seem worth it to me at all. You can ws in a small amount of STP gear for an insignificant DPS loss on WS for even less of a chance to lose 5hit too. That or setup your xml so you switch to a higher STP tp setup if your tp return was below x amount.

Run the DPS sheets. I don't just arbitrarily choose gear when I have access to it all

**Tymon** · 2013-08-15 18:41

Doesn't lose my 5hit in numerous parses and spreadsheet testing, without misers or sam roll, Stardiver returns enough even on a partial miss and you return about 20.7 tp per hit

edit: DPS sheets also report that it is in fact superior to use ares+1 and substitute hagneia and mikinaak R15 A (or even B but a smaller margin of improvement) in WS to maintain the 5hit

edit 2: Phorcys comment appears to be incorrect, but is almost insignificant (~2 dps)

edit 3: can be even more effecient by eating Carbonara+1 in high buff scenarios, due to the attack bonus from RCB being insignificant if using Upukirex

**Taint** · 2013-08-15 18:57

With Carbonara I have Ares+1 legs/Miki hands winning. I still use RCB on DRG (only job I use RCB on) but I could see some Carbonara situations. It is my food of choice any time I have access or LR or Zerk.

Edit: You can pretty much tweak the sheet to make any of our combos come out on top. Especially in high buffs with DA roll.

**Tymon** · 2013-08-15 19:02

Literally a 1 DPS increase using your exact set by putting on Ares+1 hands instead of R15 Mikinaak on the spreadsheet. Must be something obscure with buffs. If that's the case then Ares+1 hands/legs are superior in high buff situations and Mikinaak/perhaps phorcys legs in low/no buffs

**Raelia** · 2013-08-16 08:56

An increase is still an increase, and is thus more 'optimal'.

Which is why such context is silly.

**tharon** · 2013-08-16 11:28

Curious why you wouldn't drop Plackart+2 for Enif for the quad attack and use ogier's to rep the stp from body

**Tymon** · 2013-08-16 13:45

Originally Posted by tharon

Curious why you wouldn't drop Plackart+2 for Enif for the quad attack and use ogier's to rep the stp from body

Because it's worse on the spreadsheet.

If you have 11'd SAM/Miser's then Enif/Ares+1 hands/feet is actually the best combination, even at 29% haste. Because you're so far above the 5hit.

**TSFFXI** · 2013-08-16 14:27

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

3DA and you're already likely capped on acc/atk.

I'm not sure which situations you meant for this, but is it fair to assume that in general? The most attack I could get with Mikinaak R15, Minuet 4/5 and corsair roll was approximately 1800. That's attack capped for monsters with less than 800 defense. The spreadsheets estimate Tojil having 1900 defense, so you'd need to reduce the defense by 58%. Angon(+2) and DiaIII(light shot) and Geo-Frailty are required to accomplish that. It's probably safe to say that any other set would not be attack capped.

**Dipset** · 2013-10-25 12:44

Originally Posted by Prothescar

Bets use of this thread would be to provide links to existing compilations of gear for the jobs that have them. There's simply too much to list in a single post/thread and the discussion would be pretty counter-intuitive to the "idea" of why the giant question threads and everything were removed anyway, probably.

WAR
MNK
WHM
BLM
THF
PLD
DRK
BRD
RNG
SAM
NIN
SMN
BLU
COR
SCH
DNC
RUN

Each of these provides varying levels of discussion and up-to-date sets, the RUn one being incomplete but will be made whole at a later date, and there's a PUP thing somewhere but I don't remember where, however they provide much more centralized places to discuss and research individual jobs rather than one post with a jumble of sets that would be very difficult to organize based on situation (since there are so many of those) and write information and gearswaps about without the post being a metric fuckton of shitfuckery and requiring monumental amounts of upkeep. Going through this thread to find meaningful, up to date discussion or information about a particular job or gearset would also be nearly impossible.

Dam no love for RDM?

especially with all the different situations/sets

**Damane** · 2013-10-25 16:49

Originally Posted by Dipset

Dam no love for RDM?

especially with all the different situations/sets

as harsch as it sounds but I see RDM up there disguised as a SCH/RDM :/

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