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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    The pattern is behavior, not "clothing article similar to the one he wore a couple times".
    in the flashforward for his birthday what did he eat? BREAKFAST. and who always eats breakfast??!?! WALT JR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talint View Post
    by the end of the series, everyone loves Skyler and hates Jesse.
    WHO HATES JESSE, LET ME TALK TO THEM

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    That fucking ricin cigarette lol.

    Edit: backstory spoilers http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstj...cin-cigarette/

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    from Alan Sepinwall's recap, explanation of Brock poisoning/Ricin cigarette:

    UPDATE: I've gotten so many emails, tweets and comments below expressing confusion about how Jesse figured out about the cigarette swap that I decided to simply lay out the chronology as follows:

    1)In "End Times," to get Jesse back on his side in the war against Gus, Walt arranges for Huell to steal the cigarette pack with the ricin cigarette out of Jesse's pocket and replace it with a different pack. Saul calls Jesse to his office on shaky reasons, and Huell pats him down in a way that gets Jesse's attention. Walt doesn't use the ricin to poison Brock, but rather a lily of the valley plant that will have a similar but less dangerous effect on the boy.

    2)When Jesse hears that Brock has been poisoned, he realizes that the ricin cigarette is missing, then (correctly) puts two and two together that Huell stole it, on Walt's orders. He storms into Walt's house and threatens to kill him for poisoning Brock; Walt convinces Jesse that it was Gus, not him, who wanted to hurt the boy — specifically so Jesse would come to this conclusion and murder Walt for him — and that Tyrus must have lifted the cigarettes from Jesse's locker at the Super Lab. Jesse accepts that Mr. White would never hurt a child, whereas Gus has a history of hurting children, and lets go of the theory about Huell.

    3)Doctors later figure out that Brock was poisoned by a lily of the valley, not ricin, making Jesse doubt Walt's theory about Gus manipulating Jesse into shooting Walt, and leaving him to wonder what really happened to the ricin cigarette. Walt stages a phony search of Jesse's house and plants a fake cigarette (containing salt, not ricin) inside Jesse's Roomba. None of this sits well with Jesse, but he once again believes Mr. White.

    4)Over the course of season 5, starting around the murder of Drew Sharp, Jesse has begun to realize that he shouldn't believe anything Walt says. Walt claims to be broken up over Drew's death, then whistles while he works. Walt claims that Mike left town alive, when Jesse knows that Walt would've never taken out Mike's guys unless Mike was dead. Walt gives Jesse a whole song and dance about how leaving town will be good for Jesse, when Jesse knows that it will be even better for Walt.

    5)Having been primed to disbelieve any word out of Walt's mouth, Jesse goes to Saul's office, lights up a joint and gets scolded by Saul, who knows his relocation expert won't pick up anyone who's high. Saul orders Huell to again pick Jesse's pocket to get rid of the marijuana.

    6)At the pick-up spot, a nervous Jesse reaches for his pot, and can't find it. He frantically checks all his pockets, but all he finds is a cigarette pack. Staring at the cigarette pack, and realizing Huell dipped into his pocket without him noticing, Jesse realizes that his first suspicions about the ricin cigarette were correct, and that Mr. White was manipulating him into turning against Gus, endangering Brock's life in the process.

    That the ricin wasn't actually used on Brock is beside the point. Jesse knew from the beginning that Huell had picked his pocket, and that he must have done it on Mr. White's orders. He has been thinking about this often in the months since it happened — far more often and more intensely than those of us watching the show have, and in a more compressed time period. When he realizes Huell picked his pocket, and stares at another crumpled cigarette pack, everything clicks into place about the events of "End Times" — including how convenient it was that this terrible thing happened to Brock, which turned Jesse back into Walt's ally, at the exact moment Walt needed an ally against Gus — and he goes on the warpath against Saul, Huell and that asshole Mr. White.

    You may disagree with whether Jesse would have put all the pieces together like that, but that's what happened.
    Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wat...eWFzbetX01d.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle View Post
    WHO HATES JESSE, LET ME TALK TO THEM
    I hate Jesse.

    Wasn't a recent thing, but over the past 1.5 seasons or so, I've grown to hate him.

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    fucking terrible

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    Jesses done some bad ass shit so I can't hate him, but he needs to stop being such a bitch.

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    Jesse is the only person I hope survives, and it's killing me every week that he is in an elevated situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by AidenCarby View Post
    Jesses done some bad ass shit so I can't hate him, but he needs to stop being such a bitch.
    Uhhh, we watching the same show man? He just burst into saul's office, assaulted the shit out of him, nearly killed the dude and his body guard, and then dumped gasoline all over Walt's house. Also had his life ruined like 5x so there's that.

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    I'm still rooting for Walt, fuck everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AidenCarby View Post
    I'm still rooting for Walt, fuck everyone else.
    ^

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    Not too mention Jesse tried to nut up on those 2 gangsters (although he probably would of got shot if Walt didnt interfere) and murdered a fairly innocent man (gale). He has seen some crazy shit and I don't blame him for being fucked in the head.

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    It basically comes down to the fact that Jesse never made a single attempt to get away from it all. He had the means, motive, and opportunity several times, and instead, he keeps coming back.

    He is, in fact, being a little bitch about it all.

    You cannot have morals in a criminal enterprise. This is something Walt learned and Jesse didn't.

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    If you don't like Jesse you're a faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    If you don't like Jesse you're a faggot
    I was a faggot LOOOOOOOOOOOONG before my disdain for Jesse.

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    ITT: People never having been around someone that is severely depressed.

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    Immediately after that scene.. "yeah ill cook, 50/50 right?" lol.

    Seriously though, how could you not feel for Jesse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talint View Post
    It basically comes down to the fact that Jesse never made a single attempt to get away from it all. He had the means, motive, and opportunity several times, and instead, he keeps coming back.

    He is, in fact, being a little bitch about it all.

    You cannot have morals in a criminal enterprise. This is something Walt learned and Jesse didn't.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_abuse
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation

    I know it's a tv show and everything but you are literally victim-blaming jesse for being abused by a man who's been a father figure to him for the past year and a half and ruined his life in every way possible

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