Materia System - Compiled Information Thread

[TuckerMax]

I havent tested the amount myself beyond general feel, but from what I can gather + what i've read, it's not worth it at this point in time.

It is more effective to wear no +spiritbond items and spiritbond those slots than it is to wear additional +spiritbond gear to speed up the process.

[Raldo]

They are incredibly small increases, so it's likely to be +1% per +1 spiritbond. Simply put, you're better off spiritbonding something else in the slot instead of wearing +spiritbond gear (with the exception of Aetheryte Rings, since they're convertible).

[Classikmage]

http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3b495079.png

Saw this on the AH today, +28 crit cap on Sarnga? How would that compare to anything pre-relic? And if the cap is +28, would it be more beneficial to just meld 3 Tier 4 crits for +27 and put the last 2 into a mix of DEX/VIT/Determination(depending on the caps for those stats)?

[Deadgye]

That adds up to +29, which matches the accuracy. The dex and vit are also probably capped at the values shown. You could do +27crit and then pump the other 2 slots full of det though. It'd be better than The Bow of Crags. So basically the best pre-relic bow currently.

[Classikmage]

That adds up to +29, which matches the accuracy. The dex and vit are also probably capped at the values shown. You could do +27crit and then pump the other 2 slots full of det though. It'd be better than The Bow of Crags. So basically the best pre-relic bow currently.

Oh wait, yeah +29, I derped when adding them and didn't add the red one. ><

[Shaano]

I can't imagine someone actually buying that to use

[Spider-Dan]

I had a Sarnga before the i70 spiritbond patch. Tested it, resold it.

[TuckerMax]

Buying, definitely not, but some people may consider grinding WP/AK as a nice alternative to farming Ifrit and Garuda, especially given that this weapon shits on most.

[magless]

I've browsed through this thread but didn't see this question answered. Sorry if I missed it:

Is there any info on what can be reliably converted into certain materia? If I get a 45+ ring with parry on it, will I get Battledance III out of it, or is it entirely random?

[Crizto]

It would be one of the possibilities, but yeah it'll be random which you get. Probably with Amber(?) Rings you're looking at getting either Vitality/Battledance/Savage Aim/Savage Might/Heavens Eye/Earth Resist. I've only done Zircon-focused accessories so I'm just basing it on what I get from those.

[Niiro]

Materia that have universally useful stats can come from any gear (DET, Crit, ACC, VIT).

Melee gear can give melee-oriented materia (Quickarm, STR/DEX) and mage gear can give mage-oriented materia (Quicktongue, MND/INT/PIE). I've gotten DEX from non-BRD gear but I can't say I've gotten INT from healer gear or MND from caster gear.

Anything can become elemental materia save DoL/DoH gear which is always DoL/DoH materia.

I couldn't say off hand whether Battledance falls into the melee category or if it's narrowed down tank-oriented melee gear.

[Raldo]

I couldn't say off hand whether Battledance falls into the melee category or if it's narrowed down tank-oriented melee gear.

If I had to guess, I'd say battledance / skill speed / spell speed are probably mutually exclusive. I've converted over 50 BRD/DRG/WHM iLv55 things since I started keeping track and haven't got a single parry materia, whereas I've netted multiples of everything else. WAR is my next spiritbond set, so I'll see if parry turns up (though I'll probably forget to update this thread).

[Kaope]

In regard to converting materias; From what I've understood so far, T4 materias can only be obtained from converting i70 gears and from converting i55 gears (Militias/Imperials), correct?

[Niiro]

Correct.

The chance of T4 from ilvl 55 stuff is pretty low tho.

[Raldo]

My very low sample size (~55 conversions tracked, 6 Tier-4s) has the rate between 10~15% right now for T4s out of iLv55 gear.

[Brehn]

Tier 4 VIT off a Lv45 Aetherial Felt Robe.

Spoiler: show

http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...07ea8db4a6.jpg

Is this a new thing?

[Andradi]

Yes, it was mentioned in the patch notes.

Should also mention I got a Tier II off a level ~15 item, pretty sure that never happened before either.

[Brehn]

Well then, this is a delightful turn of events! Thanks!

[Raldo]

Well, I got tired of everyone on the OF complaining that "oh golly gee why doesn't SE list the materia caps", so I crunched the numbers and listed the caps for all iLv70 gear.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1707712

[Wulfgang]

Yes, it was mentioned in the patch notes.

Should also mention I got a Tier II off a level ~15 item, pretty sure that never happened before either.

Not doubting at all, but CTRL + F for "spiritbond", "materia", "conversion", "Tier IV" and some other terms didn't turn up the note. Can someone paste it? I have been scrolling through the notes and I must be blind.