Phase 4 impressions / discussion thread

[gaogaostegosaurus]

I think all chests can, but the change is abysmally low. They dropped them like crazy in P1-P2 and people complained that you got too much gear too fast so they gimped it.

Satasha has five chests (plus the three mini boss and final chest) from what I know. From all the dungeon spamming I've done in phase 3 and 4, I've never seen *anything* but tin drop from the first two before the first boss, so I've started skipping those in the interest of time (have to clear mobs to open them) . I think this might be the case for a lot of the "early" chests, but I'm not as sure obviously. If this is the case though it might be nice to collect information on which chests aren't worth fighting toward.

I've seen a lot of drops from the next three in the side rooms (aetherial gear and periodically Plundered accessories). Might be around the 50 percent drop rate mark, although the pool is pretty big so getting something you want is a bit of a crapshoot.

As a side note, does this mean Satasha is the best area to farm low level gear quantity-wise? I don't know the rest of the starter dungeons nearly as well, but does anything beat three random gear chests, three mini boss, plus the usual one final chest for a 30m run?

[Reve]

I'm just hoarding all my gil for a house. I'm hoping personal houses open up shortly, while the rest of the losers get bed bugs from the Inn Rooms. I can't remember which interview it was, but Yoshi said that most of the house furnishings will come from Crafters so that should open up a whole host of additional recipes. I'm excited for the DoH and DoL stuff. It seems like they'll grow a lot through updates, not just a "In the new patch you each get one new recipe. Peace out."

[Resin]

I'm actually in the process of compiling complete drop tables for the first three dungeons, but from what I've found, in terms of sheer loot dropping, Tam Tara is the most (this includes aetherial gear). If all you're interested in are the green quality armor pieces, then you want the dungeon that you can clear the fastest (each dungeon only has 3 guaranteed green armor drops). Also, my data isn't complete yet, but I'm almost certain that not all green armor pieces are available from all 3 dungeons. In that case, you'd pick the dungeons you want to run for the pieces you need.

[Cichy]

Ya I saw, that sucks it's FC only atm. But that still makes me wondering if the individual houses would be instanced.

I'm not sure how it was in EQ2 but here I'm pretty sure it's gonna be an instanced zone where you can walk around and see everyones house and than you zone again when you actually enter the house.

[Ksandra]

I'm not sure how it was in EQ2 but here I'm pretty sure it's gonna be an instanced zone where you can walk around and see everyones house and than you zone again when you actually enter the house.

in eq they had houses in cities, and you could basically rent any of them (the bigger the house the higher the rent). When you clicked on the door to "your house" a list would pull up with everyone renting it, and you would click your name to go into your own. (I think you could type your name in a search to make it faster iirc.) You could (obviously) then visit other people's houses by doing the same thing.

One thing that was nice, is they had display cases you could buy that would sell stuff. It was connected to the ah, but if people bought it from your case there was a smaller tax fee (to encourage people to check out other houses).

[Cichy]

in eq they had houses in cities, and you could basically rent any of them (the bigger the house the higher the rent). When you clicked on the door to "your house" a list would pull up with everyone renting it, and you would click your name to go into your own. (I think you could type your name in a search to make it faster iirc.) You could (obviously) then visit other people's houses by doing the same thing.

One thing that was nice, is they had display cases you could buy that would sell stuff. It was connected to the ah, but if people bought it from your case there was a smaller tax fee (to encourage people to check out other houses).

They said you will be able to customize the way your house looks on the outside as well and there will be no rent option. You have to buy a house and the price will be dependent on the size, there will be different sizes of plots and apparently some will be crazy expensive. If you don't have money to afford it you just use the Inn.

[Seravi Edalborez]

So I realize there probably isn't a whole lot of in-depth stuff that can be said about Limit Break (or rather, the "oh shit" button nobody needed?), but since I have thus far only been duty'ing as CNJ (where I haven't needed to blow it on heals yet):

What role should be using it, when? Most parties tend to hold it for the boss until someone remembers to use it, but seems like you only get to build to a lv2 LB if you used a lv1? So...?

[Evane]

You get Lv2 at the boss of the dungeon if you are in a light party. You start with lv2 and get lv3 at the boss of the dungeon if you are in a full party. So far there is no "need" to use it but Yoshi kept hinting that it will be needed to clear higher level stuff.

[Ksandra]

They said you will be able to customize the way your house looks on the outside as well and there will be no rent option. You have to buy a house and the price will be dependent on the size, there will be different sizes of plots and apparently some will be crazy expensive. If you don't have money to afford it you just use the Inn.

ah ok thanks! Seems weird. Because that means only a small fraction of FC (and players if they extend to that) will be able to get one.

[Reve]

So I realize there probably isn't a whole lot of in-depth stuff that can be said about Limit Break (or rather, the "oh shit" button nobody needed?), but since I have thus far only been duty'ing as CNJ (where I haven't needed to blow it on heals yet):

What role should be using it, when? Most parties tend to hold it for the boss until someone remembers to use it, but seems like you only get to build to a lv2 LB if you used a lv1? So...?

The low level dungeons don't really need Limit Break planning. Usually my groups have popped the Limit Break to kill a Boss or Mini-Boss faster. Yoshi-P has said that for end game type content you'll have to plan who will use Limit Break and when.

[solracht]

ah ok thanks! Seems weird. Because that means only a small fraction of FC (and players if they extend to that) will be able to get one.

Originally they said whenever the housing area filled up, a copy of the area would be created (with empty houses of course). Whether that's still their plan or not, idk.

[Cichy]

Originally they said whenever the housing area filled up, a copy of the area would be created (with empty houses of course). Whether that's still their plan or not, idk.

yup, I think that's the plan to deal with it

[Ksandra]

sweet

[Cichy]

I'm more stoked for housing than I am for end game. I spent so much time and money on the mog house in XI and I've been hoping for something like this ever since. Actually when they started asking taking suggestions year ago I posted a bunch about how housing should be designed and I gotta say they really did listen

[gaogaostegosaurus]

The low level dungeons don't really need Limit Break planning. Usually my groups have popped the Limit Break to kill a Boss or Mini-Boss faster. Yoshi-P has said that for end game type content you'll have to plan who will use Limit Break and when.

Anyone figure out if it's better to use two level 1s as opposed to one level 2? I forgot to try this out myself lol

[Seravi Edalborez]

Anyone figure out if it's better to use two level 1s as opposed to one level 2? I forgot to try this out myself lol

XIVDB says 1 lv2 is slightly better.

[gaogaostegosaurus]

XIVDB says 1 lv2 is slightly better.

OH RIGHT TOOLTIPS

Is it sad that I'm still not used to damage in this game (even in just a relative sense) not requiring statistical analysis to figure out which is best, a la FFXI? Haha

[Ksandra]

I'm more stoked for housing than I am for end game. I spent so much time and money on the mog house in XI and I've been hoping for something like this ever since. Actually when they started asking taking suggestions year ago I posted a bunch about how housing should be designed and I gotta say they really did listen

Ya, ever since I tried eq2 I am super obsessed with housing systems. My engame gear will probably be crap as I am probably going to spend most of my time/gil on furniture.

[Evane]

Ya, ever since I tried eq2 I am super obsessed with housing systems. My engame gear will probably be crap as I am probably going to spend most of my time/gil on furniture.

Some of the coolest furniture come from doing content. You'll get Ifrit's head/horns as a plaque, Garuda's feathers into a couch/chairs and a cool giant malboro bookcase from a giant malboro (FATE near tranquil?)

So it'll be 2 in 1.

[Lokus]

From the little exploring I was able to do in the housing area, I noticed there was a pathway that lead somewhere that was blocked by a door. Might be a pathway that leads to other housing instances. I also noticed some areas that close to the houses have stalls that seem to be for FC run merchants.