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**Churchill** · 2013-10-01 16:01

Originally Posted by Kiarax

Well it's bound to happen at some point I'm sure, but every wipe I recall has been a simple case of fucking up slimes or low DPS in turn 1, missing a silence and getting fucked by para in 2, etc. Our turn 4 runs have been sloppy as fuck simply because of lacking DPS and me fucking up drawing aggro because I hadn't memorized spawns yet. Once again I'm not trying to refute that PLD is simply a better tank, because there's no denying that. It's pretty silly to say I'm being carried at all when my extra DPS is what pushed the group to progress further. Sure you can replace DPS until PLD > WAR, but we've no interest in repping people rather than working with what we've got. If I see some substantial benefit to rocking 2x PLD in turn 5 when we attempt it I'll gladly level it, maybe even when our DPS get more i90 gear to make 1-4 easier I'll swap too. But with our current set up and gear my WAR is simply bringing more to the table.

well your dps should have no issues doing any of 1-4 with 60/70 gear. those times where para goes off aren't a big deal with a paladin and you can def still beat ADS with it going off. you're arguing you aren't being carried because your group sounds like terrible dps but that's looking at the problem through a microscope. look at the problem from a different angle, like if you had competent dps, that's what i'm referring to by 'carried'.

**Kiarax** · 2013-10-01 16:08

No, claiming I'm not being carried when I'm literally not isn't "looking through a microscope", it's simply stating a fact. And the para wipe was because paralyze made someone fuck up rot, nothing to do with WAR or the healers.

**Headspace** · 2013-10-01 16:19

Just wasted my entire weekend getting my DoH and DoLs to 15 and reading this discussion makes me want I further procrastinate containing my WHM

**Charismatic** · 2013-10-01 16:21

wut

**Day** · 2013-10-01 16:26

lmao wut indeed

need to level your fool ass up so we can kill things together headspace

**Arvin** · 2013-10-01 16:53

Half the people I talk to tell me drg does well, the other half swear it off. I'm still leveling bard, and we are in coil. Is it worth swapping mains?

**Arvin** · 2013-10-01 16:54

Like I don't fkng care if the difference is minimal

**Kiarax** · 2013-10-01 17:19

BRD is great DPS, has ballad and silence. Shit's no contest.

**Kiarax** · 2013-10-01 17:50

Originally Posted by Kuroikage

It does.
Succor just adds the Adloquim effect in an AoE with lower initial potency.

This is wrong, just paid attention for once.

**shepardG** · 2013-10-01 17:52

Originally Posted by Kiarax

Do crits double shield on Succor? Doesn't say it does and I can never fucking tell.

yup, they do

**shepardG** · 2013-10-01 17:53

hmmmm

**Kiarax** · 2013-10-01 17:59

Ultima autos for 800 and a 600 crit Succor made me take 200. 99% sure it does not.

**Rocl** · 2013-10-01 18:00

I was fairly certain it didn't either but I never paid too much attention to it

**Rocl** · 2013-10-01 18:01

also ballad*

**Churchill** · 2013-10-01 18:02

Originally Posted by Arvin

Half the people I talk to tell me drg does well, the other half swear it off. I'm still leveling bard, and we are in coil. Is it worth swapping mains?

Ideal situations, DRG is better DPS than BRD. Most situations are not ideal though. Difference between the two is not large.

The other DPS classes shit on both though. Not nominal.

**Kuishen** · 2013-10-01 19:02

I had to leave an AK run today because I was out-DPSing the BRD as WAR. He was full AF, no belt, ilvl 30 accessories and a level 39 weapon. The other two were FC-mates and the BLM wasn't geared enough to make up that much damage.

Goddamn FATEs man.

**Rocl** · 2013-10-01 19:25

literally just /following a bard in this AK run and having Eos heal

**Kuishen** · 2013-10-02 00:18

What is the deal with bads and AK today, jesus.

**Day** · 2013-10-02 08:24

stop duty finding fool

**Tsutsumiko** · 2013-10-02 08:58

Originally Posted by Arvin

Like I don't fkng care if the difference is minimal

You worry about this too much Arv. I just like to give you shit cause lolDRG

That said, if you stop playing DRG, who is gonna use the limit macro with the giant ASCII penis in it?

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