Skirmish 2: Equipment

[Slycer]

This page has all of the correct DMG numbers:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Skirmish_Weapon

Note that the individual weapon pages may or may not have the correct damage numbers. I'll be working through it today to make sure there are notes on each of the affected weapon pages stating that the in-game item image is incorrect and the actual DMG rating is (whatever it is). Please refer to the Skirmish Weapon page for now.

The discrepancies exist for the weapons below. All of them are nerfs except Hgafircian and Crobaci (although realistically they aren't nerfs because the items were never obtainable with their "higher" value - there's just a discrepancy between what's displayed and what actually is).

Remember the displayed values on an item's help text have no direct link to the actual item stats. It's simply something that was typed into a box by someone, typically translated from the Japanese help image. All of these items were implemented in early August, so what likely happened is that they decided to change the stats just before implementing the update, adjusted the Japanese help text, but never relayed the updated information for localization on the other languages' help texts.

Ninzas +1 -- Displayed: 88 / Actual: 79
Leisilonu +1 -- Displayed: 86 / Actual: 75
Iztaasu +1 -- Displayed: 99 / Actual: 97
Crobaci +1 -- Displayed: 198 / Actual: 206
Lehbrailg +1 -- Displayed: 169 / Actual: 166
Uffrat +1 -- Displayed: 169 / Actual: 166
Aedold +1 -- Displayed: 140 / Actual: 123
Hgafircian +1 -- Displayed: 86 / Actual: 95

Here's the report that was run which shows the item characteristics that were changed in the recent update: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Late_Augu...Existing_Items

[dasva]

Has anyone reported it as a bug? I mean gimping alot of weapons dmg with the update but having the item say it is still higher is kinda big

[Sechs]

Could maybe make kitty eyes and pretend they deceived us with those wrong numbers so that they can revert the "nerf"? xD

[kenshyn]

This page has all of the correct DMG numbers:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Skirmish_Weapon

Note that the individual weapon pages may or may not have the correct damage numbers. I'll be working through it today to make sure there are notes on each of the affected weapon pages stating that the in-game item image is incorrect and the actual DMG rating is (whatever it is). Please refer to the Skirmish Weapon page for now.

The discrepancies exist for the weapons below. All of them are nerfs except Hgafircian and Crobaci (although realistically they aren't nerfs because the items were never obtainable with their "higher" value - there's just a discrepancy between what's displayed and what actually is).

Remember the displayed values on an item's help text have no direct link to the actual item stats. It's simply something that was typed into a box by someone, typically translated from the Japanese help image. All of these items were implemented in early August, so what likely happened is that they decided to change the stats just before implementing the update, adjusted the Japanese help text, but never relayed the updated information for localization on the other languages' help texts.

Ninzas +1 -- Displayed: 88 / Actual: 79
Leisilonu +1 -- Displayed: 86 / Actual: 75
Iztaasu +1 -- Displayed: 99 / Actual: 97
Crobaci +1 -- Displayed: 198 / Actual: 206
Lehbrailg +1 -- Displayed: 169 / Actual: 166
Uffrat +1 -- Displayed: 169 / Actual: 166
Aedold +1 -- Displayed: 140 / Actual: 123
Hgafircian +1 -- Displayed: 86 / Actual: 95

Here's the report that was run which shows the item characteristics that were changed in the recent update: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Late_Augu...Existing_Items

Damn I need to get and test that gun for sure...

[Slycer]

Has anyone reported it as a bug? I mean gimping alot of weapons dmg with the update but having the item say it is still higher is kinda big

It was reported on localization forum by Asymptotic 8 days ago, still no response. I will post a reply to the thread to bump it.

Edit: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...t-Damage-Value

[doctorugh]

Damn I need to get and test that gun for sure...

I tested a few days ago when I got it, D=95

[Helel]

Still much worse than donderbuss. 660 delay and far less marks skill. Doesn't really have any use, except maybe as a QD gun lol? if you were to augment it with AGI. Actually, I guess I should add it to my guide, as it's probably better than surefire.

[dasva]

Well idk about over there but I haven't seen any donderbusses for sale over here. Agi augment probably wont make it better for qd since the marksmanship skill should add more macc but higher base dmg would be nice. In situations where the skill on it is enough to cap you racc/pdif the extra ratt/racc and skill on donderbuss wouldn't matter. But basically just makes it situationally about the same. Now if the snapshot could go pretty high it might be worth something but I think all we've seen is like what 1 on it? Unless 1 means more than 1% that's kinda shitty

[Ihina]

I have +8atk/-2pdt on Iuitl Wristbands with an NQ stone. It's unfortunate that none of that stuff is really worth using on anything other than fodders.

[Alistaire]

Still much worse than donderbuss. 660 delay and far less marks skill. Doesn't really have any use, except maybe as a QD gun lol? if you were to augment it with AGI. Actually, I guess I should add it to my guide, as it's probably better than surefire.

Considering skill adds to QD accuracy as well, no.

[kenshyn]

I tested a few days ago when I got it, D=95

Add d10-12 damage str rattk would be nice in comparison to my surefire but I swear I know SE may just stealth change it to match and trying to get the right stats would be wasted ugh. Getting a donder if possible would be best still but the parts aren't readily available for a reasonable price.

[Sechs]

Has the theory of two groups for weapons augment been confirmed?
Each weapon can get 0-2 augments from the list. Someone theorized that at best it could be 1 augment from the first group and 1 augment from the second group.

My question in other more specific terms: Can you get Pet: Mab (or Macc) AND Avatar Perpetuation as the two bonuses on the SAME Uffrat +1?
I seem to be seeing a pattern where one of the two stats is always INT/MND/CHR and the second is macc/mab/perp or something else.

[Damane]

is this correct according to BG wiki that Iutli gear can only get +1 DA augment max on a +1 and +2 stone?

[Helel]

Well idk about over there but I haven't seen any donderbusses for sale over here. Agi augment probably wont make it better for qd since the marksmanship skill should add more macc but higher base dmg would be nice. In situations where the skill on it is enough to cap you racc/pdif the extra ratt/racc and skill on donderbuss wouldn't matter. But basically just makes it situationally about the same. Now if the snapshot could go pretty high it might be worth something but I think all we've seen is like what 1 on it? Unless 1 means more than 1% that's kinda shitty

I just had mine crafted. The materials are easy enough to come by.

I think max for snapshot is 2, but yeah, not great, especially when it already has 660 delay.

[Helel]

is this correct according to BG wiki that Iutli gear can only get +1 DA augment max on a +1 and +2 stone?

No. I have DA+2 on my gloves.

[dannyl]

To help in adding to the possible augs on the skirmish weapons, for Aedold +1, +1stone yield me DMG +11 and STR+5. Not sure if DMG:11 is max, but got it on my first aug try.

Also, using a +1 stone, for Kannakiri +1 I received DMG:+10 and Attack +7

referencing:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Skirmish_Weapons

[Dammerung]

Just got Cure Potency+3 on Gendewitha off a +1 stone; wiki has +4 as minimum value.

[Lyramion]

Friend got a D+24 Atk+4 out of a +1 Stone on Iclamar +1. Lucky right there.

[Ophannus]

Safe to say Crit/DA can only appear in +1 or +2 stones?

[Slycer]

Yeah, definitely looks like NQ = no chance, +1 stone = chance at 1 crit/DA only, and +2 stone = chance at 1~2 crit/DA. It looks like it's the same for all weapons and armor which can get crit and DA.

Edit: This isn't specific to crit/DA - all of these augments look like they cannot appear on NQ stones (let me know if I'm wrong):

Avatar Perp Cost-
Fast Cast
Enmity-
Magic Defense Bonus
Magic Burst Damage
Crit Rate
Double Attack