Warrior (because lol Marauder) (Last update 9/1/13)

**Nicostrato** · 2013-10-07 13:17

Originally Posted by Churchill

Been on PLD a lot and it's 23%, I want to say 24% on Warrior but I might be completely making that up.

Edit: Yeah Warrior mitigation is 24%

This looks like parry mitigation. Straight dmg mitigation from defense and protect is about 36.5% according to http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=213

**gaogaostegosaurus** · 2013-10-07 17:27

Originally Posted by Gilgameshx

And bring back defender or tie it into defiance... something like if we take x% of damage, we gain a temporary defensive boost lasting like 5 seconds. Always active. Or even simpler... the more we get hit the stronger we get. Offensively and defensively.

This is from a while ago, but I was looking up JP skill names and suddenly recalled this post because it became unintentionally funny. Apparently, Defiance is what they translated Defender (in Japanese) to. So you got your wish!

Also, Infuriate = War Cry. XIV's translators are weird.

**Syncness** · 2013-10-07 21:56

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...PLD-comparison

Not sure if this has been posted before, can't search for links on this forum.

This thread covers the mitigation differences between PLD/WARs quite well.

**Invictus** · 2013-10-07 22:43

Originally Posted by Jinroh

Why is dodging such a hard concept?

Idk, this game is fucking crayola, but people are retarded. My FC has gotten Relics in Pugs, but can't do it as a group, and I have a 100% suspicion it's because 1-2 of them were just outright carried in their runs. One of the Relic mages even admitted he was "dead when they beat titan for his pug", and that he "has a hard time dodging and healing at the same time". Wut.

They're 2-3 Relics in, I still don't have Bravura, and now I'm 2 weeks of Facerolling Titan away from just quitting them.

If I see another PLD with Amber Acc, DL Hands and Hopilite gear with a Curtana +1, I'm going to jump on the bandwagon.

**Lucavi** · 2013-10-08 01:11

Dear god, the OF desperately needs to ban half the posters in that thread. My fucking eyes.

Good math in the OP, though. Waiting for IB to get a scaling bonus based on max HP to help tighten War up for coil. Its sad that I know that I am 100% holding my coil group back on my war, even though he's well-geared, compared to having another Pld as the second tank.

**Nicostrato** · 2013-10-09 13:36

Originally Posted by Invictus

Idk, this game is fucking crayola

What does this mean? 2nd time somebody has used this word on this thread. Urban Dictionary says Crayola means "Cray" which means "Crazy" which doesn't really make sense in this context.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-10-09 13:38

Originally Posted by Nicostrato

What does this mean? 2nd time somebody has used this word on this thread. Urban Dictionary says Crayola means "Cray" which means "Crazy" which doesn't really make sense in this context.

Spoiler: show

For kids.

**meshuggah** · 2013-10-15 10:36

Does anyone have an opinion of WAR (or MRD) as a dps? I already have a fairly geared dragoon so I could reuse some of my gear (or all of it) and get cross class abilities to help with dps. Sound viable for stuff like AK and ifrit/garuda?

**Raldo** · 2013-10-15 10:42

Are you trying to tank at the same time and just contribute to damage, or are you just trying to be a DD (if so, why not just go DRG)?

**Spider-Dan** · 2013-10-15 11:37

I like MRD as DPS/tank for AK. Enough enmity to keep the mob still, but can still pump out some damage on trash.

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2013-10-15 11:42

Originally Posted by meshuggah

Does anyone have an opinion of WAR (or MRD) as a dps? I already have a fairly geared dragoon so I could reuse some of my gear (or all of it) and get cross class abilities to help with dps. Sound viable for stuff like AK and ifrit/garuda?

MRD is a strong DPS. It gets access so all the good abilities unlike WAR and can wear Allagan gear. I have it equipped for damage and it is pretty damn rockin'. It's quite viable but you might run across some resistance in DF just queueing up for stuff. In fact I guarantee it.

**meshuggah** · 2013-10-15 11:47

Originally Posted by Grey Jorildyn

MRD is a strong DPS. It gets access so all the good abilities unlike WAR and can wear Allagan gear. I have it equipped for damage and it is pretty damn rockin'. It's quite viable but you might run across some resistance in DF just queueing up for stuff. In fact I guarantee it.

what cross class abilities are you using? Are you wearing the DRG dps armor or WAR tank armor? Are you doing a tank/dps hybrid or going for full DD?

**Spider-Dan** · 2013-10-15 12:14

Straight Shot/Raging Strikes/Blood For Blood/Invigorate

**Lucavi** · 2013-10-15 12:24

I'm going to try Mrd this afternoon for AK, but I'll have to see if losing my AF2 will result in a net loss in DPS through far inferior gear. I only have allagan legs, so there's no option to subsist without a severe ilvl loss.

**Tymon** · 2013-10-15 12:28

In theory a MRD with the Allagan axe from Turn 5 and full Allagan gear elsewhere would be the single largest burst DPS in the game.

Berserk+Raging Strikes+etc = >1200+ crits

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2013-10-15 12:46

Originally Posted by meshuggah

what cross class abilities are you using? Are you wearing the DRG dps armor or WAR tank armor? Are you doing a tank/dps hybrid or going for full DD?

My main slots would be closer to "WAR tank armor" I guess? It's Militia Armet HQ (5meld), Heavy Allagan Cuirass, Allagan Plate Belt, HDL hands, HDL Flanchard. For accessories, Imp. Operative Neck/Wristsn (4-5 melds), Allagan Maiming Ear, and Rubelite Rings with 4-5 melds each as well.

I am not at home right now to confirm 100% but I am pretty sure I set the following:
Damage: Raging Strikes, Blood for Blood, Invigorate, Straight Shot, Hawk's Eye
Support: Mantra, Second Wind, Featherfoot

The damage stuff is no-brainer. The rotation is also pretty straight forward and hard to screw up. As mentioned the burst is fairly insane and Butcher's Block combo makes this is a very touchy DPS to run at full steam. It's almost suicide with good gear.

**Lucavi** · 2013-10-15 14:59

Originally Posted by Tymon

In theory a MRD with the Allagan axe from Turn 5 and full Allagan gear elsewhere would be the single largest burst DPS in the game.

Berserk+Raging Strikes+etc = >1200+ crits

That's my PVP desire.

Someday.

**BerenTebogo** · 2013-10-16 11:44

Started breaking 1k crits on WAR. Makes me very happy. Highest IB with NQ Bravura is 1071 so far.

I know WHM can break those numbers easily so that's a bit sad, but I'm loving it.

**Kiarax** · 2013-10-16 14:07

Magic weps have something silly like 66 DMG on NQ so fuck WHMs. I want a bit more gear before I swap back to STR attributes (fuck coil), 1k with NQ is pretty sick. Think my highest has been 960ish but thats with Brav+1 and 30 VIT. Think by the time I'm comfortable enough to swap back to STR I'll be able to break 1.1k without food np. I've actually had to watch my damage in coil now or else I accidentally rip hate off our PLD on dreadnaughts. Popped off defiance and dropped 2 900 damage Butcher's Blocks. I fucking love WAR.

**Niiro** · 2013-10-16 15:04

I mentioned it in another thread but when current classes get their secondary jobs I foresee MRD's DD variant being woefully overpowered.

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