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  1. #2601
    Ridill
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    I've used this as a guide:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._rotation_and/

    Use DE+Meth, take that number and reference the guide for which rotation to use.

  2. #2602
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    Anyone have any luck fishing water/ice clusters?

    I tried getting the i180 rod and using my gp on chum instead of patience, I get much less fish obviously but I still end up with useless sea sand and not a single cluster.

    It's not a big deal.. it's just annoying that I am swimming in all the clusters I need except water and ice.

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    **Not a fisher

    Do they not come from Reducible fish? Maybe even a few from CUL desynth? I mean, that would make the most sense, but idk.

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    Yes, but with other types of aetherial reduction you can aim for 2/8 to maximize cluster gain. With fishing you can't target a lower quality fish, so you usually end up with 8/8s which are useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbubbles View Post
    Yes, but with other types of aetherial reduction you can aim for 2/8 to maximize cluster gain. With fishing you can't target a lower quality fish, so you usually end up with 8/8s which are useless.
    What do you mean by "2/8" and "8/8"?

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    Aetherial reduction bar when you go to convert, there are 8 bars, 2/8 of bars filled 8/8 of bars filled etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilbubbles View Post
    Anyone have any luck fishing water/ice clusters?

    I tried getting the i180 rod and using my gp on chum instead of patience, I get much less fish obviously but I still end up with useless sea sand and not a single cluster.

    It's not a big deal.. it's just annoying that I am swimming in all the clusters I need except water and ice.
    Either fish up the Lv 58/59 reducable fish, or reduce your perception a ton to only get to the 6/8 ranges, 7/8-8/8 give seasands.

    you'll get dawn sand for 5/9-6/8 but at least thats worth something

    Personally, I just use the thousands of clusters I have and sell some to offset buying water/ice clusters in mass.

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    Oh wow... I'm a moron.. my list of reducible fish was incomplete. Those low level fish can be straight caught with cheap bait. I'll try those.

  9. #2609
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    Screw BSM, all my turn ins are adamantite which is expensive and limited because red scripts. GC is not so bad, but gathering all this adamantite is a pain in my ass and taking way too much time to get 59-60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalafi View Post
    Screw BSM, all my turn ins are adamantite which is expensive and limited because red scripts. GC is not so bad, but gathering all this adamantite is a pain in my ass and taking way too much time to get 59-60
    If money is no object, you can buy Adamantite Dolabras (~22k) from an NPC in Azs Lla and just do leves until you're done.

    or if you have Titanium Ingots lying around, there's a lv56 leve that has you turn in 3x of those.

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    Right, totally forgot about leves; don't need Blue Scripts much any more so this fits perfectly, thanks!!

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    Why couldn't they have just made Maker's Mark function as a single action that increased progress (the amount proportionate to the # of free Flawless synths it gives currently).

    Half the time I don't even use it simply because I don't feel like taking the time to perform 8 goddamn actions just to save 1 turn later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Half the time I don't even use it simply because I don't feel like taking the time to perform 8 goddamn actions just to save 1 turn later on.
    Hahaha, 8 actions? Try doing it on a furnishing with 1000+ progress, it gives you like... 20. Maker's Mark is terrible and I never use it.

  14. #2614
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    Why would you even need it on a furnishing, you can't HQ them, there's no point in conserving durability >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Why would you even need it on a furnishing, you can't HQ them, there's no point in conserving durability >_>
    lmao. Rapid synth x3, done xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Why would you even need it on a furnishing, you can't HQ them, there's no point in conserving durability >_>
    There isn't any point, I just did it to see what I would get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    There isn't any point, I just did it to see what I would get
    Makers mark is supposed to be the holy grail for 2* synths tho, People swear by it. And honeslty, 1400 free progress on those things, I´d take it any day.

  18. #2618
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    It's a fine skill in terms of the usefulness of the effects, it's just a fucking ridiculous chore to actually use.

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    So what's your ability loadout with Maker's Mark/Flawless Synthesis?

    I consider Hasty/SH2/Reclaim/TotT/CZ/CS2/BB all untouchable, which leaves me with Mani/Ingen2/WN/PbP to drop. I'm guessing Ingen2 and PbP are the ones to go?

    Also, regarding PbP vs. Muscle Memory: PbP "increases remaining progress by 1/3," while Muscle Memory "increases progress by one third." So this is not the same thing, right? MM gives you 1/3rd of the total progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    It's a fine skill in terms of the usefulness of the effects, it's just a fucking ridiculous chore to actually use.
    I don't mind doing just a little bit of work if it can help me guarantee an HQ on an expensive as fuck item.

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