The crafting & gathering thread.

[gaogaostegosaurus]

Just for a quick addendum to the "level everything to 15" thing, except with a little more detail:

For leveling, I think a bare minimum of Tricks of the Trade (Alchemist) and Hasty Touch (Culinarian) is pretty much necessary to get somewhat consistent HQs for leves. Careful Synthesis (Weaver) also helps a bunch, but I think you can survive with those first two fairly handily with some luck/experience. So before you hunker down, you should get those two first, and Weaver as well if you feel like you can stomach one more.

The two durability skills at level 15 - Manipulation (Goldsmith) and Waste Not (Leatherworker) - also have their uses, but imho aren't as absolutely necessary as you level or even once you hit 50. It's nice to have the option eventually, but that's it. For level 50 crafting, you will need to eventually get Ingenuity as well (Blacksmith), but again, I think you'd be avoiding situations where you'd have to use it for leveling so you can leave it alone for a while.

Beyond the level 15 skills, any proper crafter will have Carpenter and Weaver 50, as well as Culinarian at 37 for Steady Hand II. So if the crafting game is your interest one of those (I'd suggest Culinarian 37) should be your immediate targets after getting the necessary 15 skills to actually level.

[Scythiroth]

Honestly, if you plan on leveling everything eventually, level them all together. This is how I leveled mine and it felt "right" since you can just make all of your own gear and help progression with all crafts at the same time (also, added benefit of less gear space required since the armor is shared between all of the crafts until 50). Lots of crafts require stuff from other crafting professions anyways. I did gathering at the same time as well but they generally stayed a little bit ahead. As was already mentioned though, once you get them all to 15, getting Culinarian to 37 would probably be more beneficial than sticking to leveling them all together, but after that, keep them all together. Culinarian doesn't really use any mats from the other crafting classes anyways, mostly just gathered/vendor stuff.

Leveling it off all my own gathered mats did take a little bit longer than buying stuff, but it was quite satisfying leveling everything to 50 for 0 gil (made quite a bit actually from taking gil from basically every quest reward too >.>).

Crafting is definitely nice to have leveled for melds and being able to make your own stuff. For me, it was kind of a personal goal of leveling it to max after never really doing so in FF11. Also, it feels good being able to HQ anything and everything for friends that need it.

[Raldo]

Leveling it off all my own gathered mats did take a little bit longer than buying stuff, but it was quite satisfying leveling everything to 50 for 0 gil (made quite a bit actually from taking gil from basically every quest reward too >.>).

Did you farm all your shards? Just the thought makes me cringe.

[Scythiroth]

Did you farm all your shards? Just the thought makes me cringe.

I did. >.> Obviously a lot of that leveling was done through guildleves though. But yeah, some of those triple turn in ones pre-nerf destroyed shard supplies rather quickly.

[Kaslo]

Did you farm all your shards? Just the thought makes me cringe.

With the level 20 abilities its not too bad to farm shards, I usually farm mine for the day in the morning while I'm waking up for work.

[Shaano]

Had a question about this guide

Mainly at what the comments below the post say. I haven't had the chance to try it because of melding, but also spammed wvr/alc/cpr to 50 past 3 nights as well.

Everything in the link 100% or what the people say below change some stuff about it? Glad crafting doesn't sound like moon talk to me anymore.

[Xerlic]

IMO, with prices the way they are now, it's not really worth it to spring for max melded crafting gear just for these 100% HQ rotations. Making ** HQs isn't that hard unless the RNG really shits on you. With the price of philosophy mats as low as they are now, I wouldn't even really care if a synth blew up.

[Niiro]

Even then there's still Reclaim which makes even "botched" synths recoverable 90% of the time.

[Seravi Edalborez]

I have no idea why an "if Excellent" macro's first step is Observe. So I'm calling that bunk.

[Wulfgang]

IMO, with prices the way they are now, it's not really worth it to spring for max melded crafting gear just for these 100% HQ rotations. Making ** HQs isn't that hard unless the RNG really shits on you. With the price of philosophy mats as low as they are now, I wouldn't even really care if a synth blew up.

This; waste of money because the melds required for the 100% no RNG synths are pretty stiff. I have the bare minimum control and craftsmanship for 2 stars and I have yet to not HQ a single finished item. HQing the 40 durability 2-star ingredient is fairly difficult, but it's not at all necessary to HQ the finished item.

[Kaslo]

The "epeen" in me still wants max melded gear

[Andradi]

The "wallet" in you never want to see a meld again oh god what are you doing with that carbonised matter?

[Don]

It's so sad that SE already said craft won't take any chance in endgame...

[Shaano]

if we put the rotation aside is the set worth aiming for to have an all in one or not so much?

[hezzel]

if we put the rotation aside is the set worth aiming for to have an all in one or not so much?

set is worth having yes, so nice to have one set instead of a set for all of them.

[Shaano]

set is worth having yes, so nice to have one set instead of a set for all of them.

main thing i was curious about thank you~ will use better rotations posted than what this is giving x;

[Spider-Dan]

This; waste of money because the melds required for the 100% no RNG synths are pretty stiff.

I like being able to robotically HQ stuff (via macros) without having to babysit the synth. Given the general value of gil in this game, I think it's a fair trade.

I have no idea why an "if Excellent" macro's first step is Observe.

Because the next two steps are Steady Hand and Standard Touch.

Without Observe:
Steady Hand on Excellent
Standard Touch on Poor

With Observe:
Observe on Excellent
Steady Hand on Poor
Standard Touch on Normal

Given that there is no failure-free +quality action if Steady Hand is not up, you can't just do a Touch action if Excellent is up (on a macro designed for 100% success rate).

[Juben]

So trying to make an HQ linen yarn macro, I am close any ideas where i am going wrong? CZ, IQ, WN2, SH2, BTx4, ST, GS, BB, CS 211 craftmanship, 208 control, 307-311 CP. I hate 40 dura crafts. I do have a lot of HQ flax but was trying to avoid using them just yet carp, alc, lw all 50.

Are there any conditional statement abilities in macro design, such as if good then I can ToTT?

[Raldo]

There are no conditional statements in macros, and before you ask, no you can't call a macro from another macro. Unless you're way over the level of the synth, 40 dura crafts are generally not going to be something you can write a macro for and guarantee 100% HQ rate.

Unfortunately, you've left out the most important piece of information... the level of your weaver.

[Juben]

Yeah I am slacking not sure how i missed that lvl 37. Using http://xivsim.x0.com/#01K3999AAFD6 so close not sure what to use (the sim doesn't seem to store the info control, craftmenship but still awesome none the less).