The crafting & gathering thread.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-04-12 17:47

Wonder if anyone can PM me a rough 3* HQ order? I'm not gonna go meld crazy, it's just for food as all I have is BSM and CUL 3*. Just would like to reliably HQ this 3* food for myself.

**Headspace** · 2014-04-13 13:34

Is it better to use HQ Patrician's gear instead of HQ AF?

**Raldo** · 2014-04-13 15:23

Patrician's stats cap lower than HQ AF, so no.

**Judah R** · 2014-04-13 15:40

Originally Posted by SathFenrir

Wonder if anyone can PM me a rough 3* HQ order? I'm not gonna go meld crazy, it's just for food as all I have is BSM and CUL 3*. Just would like to reliably HQ this 3* food for myself.

Ok, ill give a brief description... Assuming you have all crafts to 50

MAX your crafts specific gear... find stats online http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...80#post1273980

Offhand needs to be 11 control and 3 cp cap.... if you maxxed your other gear... you will have 391 craftsmanship... no need to waste craftsmanship on offhand.

You of course need new tool and head piece

now this is a basic 3 star rotation that will give you a high chance of HQ, with 100% progress, but it can get complicated.

this rotation uses 375 CP.... assuming you are max CP with HQ food.. you should have 391... this is important cause it gives you a remainder of 16cp that you can use if you can get "Good" to happen at right times....

Tricks of the Trade +20 when condition is "Good"
There are a few times where you can easily use this and get free cp.. getting just 1 tricks of the trade will add your remaining cp to 36.. which can be used to substitute 2 basic touches instead of 2 hasty touches...

Easy time to use tricks of the trade is the first 2 commands... Comfort Zone and Inner Quiet... if "good" pops there.. use tricks.....

You have to understand craft a bit to know when to use some skills.... Piece by Piece is listed back to back , but can be used any time after your first steady hand.... if "good" were to pop after you click steady hand... dont use PBP... instead use hasty touch/basic touch... use Piece by piece under normal conditions .. use quality commands under good or excellent.

Other times when you can use Tricks of the Trade is just before you use another Steady Hand II.... If you are about to use Steady Hand and condition is good... use tricks of trade....

Also.. near the end... Great Strides... innovation... ingenuity... if Excellent Pops... use Bygo blessing then.... you need 3 steps of careful syn II under Ingenuity II to finish craft.... again.. this is assuming you are at max stats...

Ill edit this a bit as I go along, kindof hungover.... there is a bit more you can do in this rotation.. ive made over 100 HQ lv90 items.. and have seen many different situations..

Oh, also... if you can get above 1600 quality to start, by using HQ ingredients, you can get well above 85% chance to HQ items... I did putty cause there are no HQ ingredients and the WHM Hands were easy to HQ with 2000 starting quality

also.... not happy with video quality , using shadowplay from nvidia, and I have sweetfx on , and im playing at 120 fps, but its recording at 60fps, which kindof makes it stutter...

**Buffy** · 2014-04-13 16:35

The melds on that off-hand piece is brutal. The price of crafting materia has sky rocketed since the patch (I assume since everyone is melding gear they didn't meld before).

**Shalafi** · 2014-04-13 17:06

Another method, this has been said to get 70% or higher; I've done it a few times with success.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2012058

**Judah R** · 2014-04-13 17:11

Originally Posted by Shalafi

Another method, this has been said to get 70% or higher; I've done it a few times with success.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2012058

bah that rotation is CRAP.... uses 6 quality commands... while I use 8.....moar inner quiet for Byr blessins yo

**Shalafi** · 2014-04-13 17:28

Ya, your rotation has potential to get higher quality but less consistent with HT.

**Judah R** · 2014-04-13 17:34

Originally Posted by Shalafi

Ya, your rotation has potential to get higher quality but less consistent with HT.

disagree.... I did like 50 HQ lv90 items in a row, hardest to make is terminus putty.. if you HQ that.... when you are then making the actually armor... you can get starting quality of 2000-2400 which makes HQ basically 100%... I sometimes mix in NQ putty or NQ base items like ignots and cashmere.. so I dont waste HQ putty... trying to stay in the 1600-2000 range on starting quality.. but to each his own... ill just disagree with my 20 milllion gil ive made in 2 weeks.... :D

**Shalafi** · 2014-04-13 18:12

Can't argue with that

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-04-13 20:03

Yeah I refuse to pay the prices currently to meld my jobs. I guess I'll take my consistent 60% HQ rate using scripts while AFK. It's just food after all, lol.

Thanks though!

**Kuji** · 2014-04-14 06:14

Anyone know the max CP meld on Militia Wrists?, I max out at 1o now, can add more?

**Buffy** · 2014-04-14 07:42

Originally Posted by Kuji

Anyone know the max CP meld on Militia Wrists?, I max out at 1o now, can add more?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...80#post1273980

The caps on HQ and NQ are the same. So the HQ can only add 6 CP to it for a total of 38 CP. I assume you mean you have the NQ wrist, which can cap out with more melded to it, but not any higher than 38 including the stats from the NQ piece.
NQ wrist 28 base +10 melded = 38.
HQ wrist 32 base + 6 melded = 38.

The short answer: No, you can't add more.

**Kuji** · 2014-04-14 08:36

Originally Posted by Buffy

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...80#post1273980

The caps on HQ and NQ are the same. So the HQ can only add 6 CP to it for a total of 38 CP. I assume you mean you have the NQ wrist, which can cap out with more melded to it, but not any higher than 38 including the stats from the NQ piece.
NQ wrist 28 base +10 melded = 38.
HQ wrist 32 base + 6 melded = 38.

The short answer: No, you can't add more.

Oh ok thank you. I actually just noticed that mine was nq.. After I lost like 4o CP materias trying to max it.. /facepalm

**Xerlic** · 2014-04-14 09:24

How do you not notice that you're melding a piece of NQ gear after 40 attempts? It's not like HQ militia wristlets are expensive, either.

**Kuji** · 2014-04-14 20:11

Originally Posted by Xerlic

How do you not notice that you're melding a piece of NQ gear after 40 attempts? It's not like HQ militia wristlets are expensive, either.

I been using it since my 1st 5o craft and I'm pretty sure I bought all hq accessories when I took crafting seriously and lvled my second one, after I capped all now and decided to max meld them apparently I slipped on buying the HQ wrists QQ

**Hiryo** · 2014-04-15 13:39

From OF

A couple of differences to point out here that I'd love to hear your opinion about:
#1 is Waste Not before the first SHII. I noticed you don't have WN in the rotation at all? If I'm reading this guy's post correctly, its using 388 CP instead of the 391 (most likely from no CP on offhand)
#2 There is an additional CZ added into OF rotation. Obviously that isn't to say that you don't use CZ if the opportunity is there.
#3 2 More Hasty Touch added in(most likely because of WN)

I'm still far from doing this stuff myself(im building up my supply of materia) but its all pretty interesting to me.

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-04-15 18:50

Originally Posted by Hiryo

From OF

That rotation is... poorly conceived.

Using HT on good procs early on and using ToT on good procs later? Got that backwards, bro.

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-04-15 18:51

(double)

**Buffy** · 2014-04-20 15:04

Should I be using Ingenuity I or II at 50?

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