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  1. #881
    Relic Shield
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    Waka Bo
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    Excalibur
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    Bahamut

    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>

    I just use that one press button, 83% hq if it sucks, but really nice to alt tab and not worry about shit

    edit: around 362 craft/control btw. max melds no food

  2. #882
    Online Dating DOES Work!!
    Sonic Ripoff of the Houe of Weave

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    i use this but if your gear is melded you can replace Basic Touches (toward the end) for Standard, and you can use cheapo food to add in more Standards!

  3. #883
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    If I wanted to get wild and eat any food I would guarantee 100% rate, but it's a pain in the ass to sit there watching 100 synths, 200 if you do both arm/bsm same time. Just throw on a movie, gather mats, alt tab when you hear completion or when ever you feel lie hitting button again. Plus don't have to worry about eating so no reapplying part way.

  4. #884
    Cerberus
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    I watch a movie too but manually do much of the button presses and end up with more HQ. Yes it takes more actual work but I never notice because I am watching a movie.

  5. #885
    Hydra
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    Joyo Mojo
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    Cerberus
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    Ragnarok
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    Kul Tiras

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaano View Post
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>

    I just use that one press button, 83% hq if it sucks, but really nice to alt tab and not worry about shit

    edit: around 362 craft/control btw. max melds no food
    This one is a better rotation that uses less CP and the last Basic Touch gets a boost from Innovation and Ingenuity II
    Code:
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me>  <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me>  <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me>  <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <me>  <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me>  <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <me>  <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me>  <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>  <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>  <wait.3>

  6. #886
    Old Odin
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Took my first shots at 3* synths, stuff for Saurian healer gloves/feet and Gold Spectacles. Terminus Putty sucks to HQ, but I found that with all HQ mats the endproducts were extremely easy. Do people usually only use 1HQ/1NQ putty? Is it significantly riskier with 2NQ putty?

  7. #887
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Took my first shots at 3* synths, stuff for Saurian healer gloves/feet and Gold Spectacles. Terminus Putty sucks to HQ, but I found that with all HQ mats the endproducts were extremely easy. Do people usually only use 1HQ/1NQ putty? Is it significantly riskier with 2NQ putty?
    now a days i go with 1hq/1NQ since HQ puttys are pure gdamn RNG. I've made about 12 3star equips. NQ'ed 1 (it was the first one i ever attempted).

  8. #888
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    Rehn Valor
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    Sargatanas
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    So someone on my server can seemingly craft to sb, but never actually finish crafting anything according to my log. What's their secret?

    What I mean is they look like they are using the synthesis motion, but nothing is completed in the log, and yet they are finishing sb on gear like normal. Scratching my head over this. Their conversions show up in my log though.

  9. #889
    Pandemonium
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    Could be using reclaim?

  10. #890
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    Rehn Valor
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    I've never seen them use any ability. I always see the glowing "orb" disappear after synthesis, so I know they are finishing it somehow... or maybe not, which is why I'm trying to figure it out. Guy's name is arche koeln on sarg.

  11. #891
    Online Dating DOES Work!!
    Sonic Ripoff of the Houe of Weave

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    Well, you don't see the completed item from quick synthesis no matter what your filter settings are. Quick synth is a real method for spiritbonding because every success/failure still gives %.

  12. #892
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    Oh was that it? I thought quick synth always showed up... guess I never paid attention.

  13. #893
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    Sonic Ripoff of the Houe of Weave

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    Just an update on my status for desynth. I'm sure some of you guys are ahead of me.
    as of 8:54 am est i am level 68.16 gsm getting .09-.14 on i55 gear. 74.5% success rate. I honestly feel like grinding i49 gear with 0.04 skill gains at 85% success is more time efficient.

  14. #894
    D. Ring
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    Any idea if desynthing HQ/NQ makes a difference? Are you basically just creating the gear, then turning around and tearing it up?

  15. #895
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    Seems to be no difference between HQ and NQ.
    There seems to be a "sweet spot" for exp just like everything else in this game that gives exp. Most likely its "green" % success.
    There may be some sort of curve for experience earned and success rates, as the upper levels can give <.05% exp for 85% success rates while 60% success rate gives .15-.2x.

  16. #896
    Ridill
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    Sath Fenrir
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    I've been trying to stay around 80-85% as well also just because I'm farming the demimateria.

  17. #897
    CoP Dynamis
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    Qmo Rieter
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    I got close to 30 cul just by desynthing a stack of lobsters I bought off the NPC.
    I thought I hit 100% success rate around the early twenties, and I basically gained 0.5 points per desynth.

    I also bought a whole bunch of GP/CP rings off the accessories vendor for about ~150gil each. My GSM is around mid 20s after doing about 30 of these.

    Anyone know of any other cheap vendor trash we can use for desynth?

  18. #898
    Old Odin
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    For posterity's sake

    Supra DoL tools
    Talan's Seal of Mining/Botany/Fishing:
    -Antumbral Rock x99, Redolent Log x99, or Olgoi-Korkhoi x3
    -Fieldcraft Demimateria III x10

    (lv50 class tool) Supra
    -Talan's Seal (above)
    -Mastercraft Demimateria x3


    DoH

    Master books for Demimateria:
    -Fieldcraft Demimateria I x5
    -Battlecraft Demimateria I x5
    7 books, cooking does not have one

    (lv50 class tool) Supra
    -Mastercraft Demimateria x3
    -(new tool fodder) x5

    New tool fodder uses the mat from the previous step (Darksteel Hook, Silver Brocade, etc) and 2x Fieldcraft Demimateria III
    801 difficulty, 8964 quality. Previous step was
    419 difficulty, 5257 quality. 3*s from before patch were
    445 difficulty, 4980 quality

    So uh, glhf.

  19. #899
    Hydra
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    Alethea Khethys
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    Anyone have any idea where fieldcraft demimateria III are from? So far I've only gotten IIs from 55 gear, though admittedly I've only done a few. I'm very concerned that they might be from 70 gear... meaning desynthing artisan tools.

    Also, still no idea where mastercraft are from.

  20. #900
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehwyn View Post
    Anyone have any idea where fieldcraft demimateria III are from? So far I've only gotten IIs from 55 gear, though admittedly I've only done a few. I'm very concerned that they might be from 70 gear... meaning desynthing artisan tools.

    Also, still no idea where mastercraft are from.

    im just assumign they follow the same rules of the materia already present. ilvl 45+ for T3s and chance @ T4 maybe?

    but more RNG INSIDE RNG so even more rare.

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