The crafting & gathering thread.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-07-20 23:00

Nobody has bought a field 3 here in 2 days, I'm actually as I'm typing this deciding I'm going to tank the price. Been sitting at 680k for 2 days no sale, fuck it. Here comes 500.

**Kuji** · 2014-07-20 23:25

Dammit.. those new weapons are sure hard to hq. I just broke two Garuda's and nq'd two Tremors.. at least I think I got the rotation right for next time.

**Niiro** · 2014-07-20 23:37

Reclaim that shit yo.

**Kuji** · 2014-07-20 23:57

I just had good quality on them so I greeded it out and used that shit ton of CP reclaim needs and failed both with 2-4 progress points left. QQ

**Neon_Sea** · 2014-07-21 02:18

Finally able to HQ 3 star without having pbp and ing2. It is not pretty and even had to use manipulate waste not and master 2 all in one. Though I am turning them out reliably which is good, can't wait to get the cross class skills though and make it a little more streamline. I was even able to HQ a saurian leather with NQ mats, not reliably I think but don't really want to try again either.

**dejet** · 2014-07-21 05:57

Do we have any reliable HQ for 3 star? I hate using hastey touch. It works and I can HQ a god damn decent amount but it there and 100% ways found yet?

**Hiryo** · 2014-07-21 08:55

Finally got to dgsm 100 last night. Game tried to troll me so hard, i had 2 pairs of gold specs left and my level was 99.62. I even if i hit the .20 average on both I would have succeeded. So the first desynth was..........0.17 <_<. That means I had to get 0.21 or higher to finish it off. Luckily, the game gave me exactly 0.21 ftw. I think i was lucky actually, I only broke 11 penta meld gold specs out of 50~. I don't have any real estimates on how much materia I spent. All i can say is it took me around 100-120 materia to pentameld 10 pairs of gold specs, so you're looking at 500+ materia. Last night, the price for all tier1 materia was 1.15k minimum, I was actually buying tier2 @800-1k(last 2 gold specs were pentamelded with only tier2's. 1% difference in attachment rate). I did use a macro to make nearly every synthesis. Only NQ'd 3/50+ gold specs which reduces materia attachment rate by 4-5% per attachment.

Some values in case anyone would find the information useful:
pentameld values from dlvl89-100 were something like 73>75>77>79>81>83>85>87>89>91>93?
You can get back 2 term putty, 1 gold ingot, 1 nugget, 1 lens, or 2 battlecraft 3. I never saw any other type of demimateria.
i70 desynth rate is 100%.
i80 desynth rate is 85%? will check later.
i90 desynth rate is 70% with no melds

**Rehwyn** · 2014-07-21 08:59

That matches my observation that, at least i70, you have a 50% chance when even level and gain/lose 2% per level above/below.

**Hiryo** · 2014-07-21 09:02

Originally Posted by dejet

Do we have any reliable HQ for 3 star? I hate using hastey touch. It works and I can HQ a god damn decent amount but it there and 100% ways found yet?

I believe people have said in the thread already, but any end product you make with all HQ material should really be HQ even at 7 IQ stats. That being said, most people pair nq/hq 500pieces with the opposited hq/nq terminus putty as using both is usually overkill for any nondemimateria synthesis.

**Eldelphia** · 2014-07-21 09:19

Q56: I would like to be able to obtain the new crafting tools that were implemented in patch 2.3 without having to desynthesize.

A56: We currently do not have any plans to do so. However, we may consider other ways to obtain the tools in the future.

and

Q54: The magicked stable brooms are too costly at the moment. Can you make it so that we are able to clean the stable with the "magic broom" minion?

A54: We sincerely apologize for the cost of the magicked stable broom as it was much higher than what we expected. We will be adjusting the recipe of the magicked stable broom so that they can be created at a cheaper cost. Additionally, we are considering selling them in NPC shops so that players do not sell them higher than that price.

and

Q46: Currently, we are unable to desynthesize ilvl 95 items. Will we be able to desynthesize them in the future?

A46: Yes, you will. We will look into making this possible as the maximum ilvl increases in the future.

and

Q44: Please add more Disciples of the Hand-specific equipment to make it so we can increase desynthesis skill more efficiently.

A44: We’d like to look into a variety of ways to do this which include both equipment and food.

and

Q42: Are demimateria only obtainable through desynthesis?

A42: Currently, we believe that demimateria should only be obtainable through desynthesis.

**Kaiyoko** · 2014-07-21 11:03

Got GSM to 100 over the weekend and started focusing non stop on Artisan Specs. Right now I've desynthed 33 of them so far at 100 and I've only received 1 MC and 2 Field 3s. Seems like the rate doesn't matter once reaching 100, but it could just be RNGjesus screwing me.

**Niiro** · 2014-07-21 11:32

Demimateria and skill definitely seem to correlate.

I was churning out aetheryte rings for a while and the farther along I got the more demis I was getting by a pretty wide margin, by the time the skill-ups dropped to sub-.10 levels I was getting a fuckton (got like 4 or 5 back to back at one point).

From what other people have been saying, the specs just have a lower chance of turning into materia compared to the tools, most likely because they're much easier to get.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-07-21 13:09

Originally Posted by Anthonystar

Got GSM to 100 over the weekend and started focusing non stop on Artisan Specs. Right now I've desynthed 33 of them so far at 100 and I've only received 1 MC and 2 Field 3s. Seems like the rate doesn't matter once reaching 100, but it could just be RNGjesus screwing me.

I'm like 3/44ish on MC and only 5-6 F3 total.

It's the general rate it seems.

**Kaiyoko** · 2014-07-21 13:32

Originally Posted by SathFenrir

I'm like 3/44ish on MC and only 5-6 F3 total.

It's the general rate it seems.

It does, I want to do more testing over the week. There might be a special case set up because of the way you obtain these items vs regular desynth items. Regular desynth items seem to be affected by skill level where these don't. But like I said might be RNG and will be testing more.

**Neon_Sea** · 2014-07-21 14:15

What do people meld on fishing?? The game told me perception and fishing is the only DoL I am going to meld so do I ignore melding anything else? Thats nice if true lol.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-07-21 14:24

Need a minimum gathering to catch most *, **, and big fish. So you meld it like any other DoL really except that you can ignore GP, and optionally meld i70 (edit: not i90) accessories for higher caps instead of the i55 Militia stuff.

**Neon_Sea** · 2014-07-21 14:33

Oh cool, so I can just use gryphon skin nq or i90 craft nq. That's pretty sweet.

**Raldo** · 2014-07-21 14:37

Originally Posted by Neon_Sea

or i90 craft nq.

i90 crafted accessories are specifically locked to DoW/M rather than 'All Classes' specifically to prevent you from using them for this purpose. Buyer beware.

i70 is the best you can do.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-07-21 15:07

Oh, my bad on that part. Didn't think to look.

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-07-21 17:03

Q44: Please add more Disciples of the Hand-specific equipment to make it so we can increase desynthesis skill more efficiently.

A44: We’d like to look into a variety of ways to do this which include both equipment and food.

I don't understand what this means.

Currently, isn't desynthesis totally separate from gear and class level?

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