The crafting & gathering thread.

**haroldsaxon** · 2014-11-07 14:26

I'd be interested to see if i110 gear gives for spiritbinding. The i110 headpiece for casters is pretty cheap to make.

**Raldo** · 2014-11-07 14:40

Pretty sure i90 stuff is still cheaper to make and faster to bond, unless the market has drastically changed since I last looked.

**haroldsaxon** · 2014-11-07 14:43

Originally Posted by Raldo

Pretty sure i90 stuff is still cheaper to make and faster to bond, unless the market has drastically changed since I last looked.

Yeah, but it doesn't give 100% T4 materia. If the i110 headpiece does, wack on some crap materia to speed up melding, plus Sastasha HM. Most of the stuff for the Platinum Circlet of Casting is pretty cheap.

**Hiryo** · 2014-11-07 14:57

Originally Posted by haroldsaxon

Yeah, but it doesn't give 100% T4 materia. If the i110 headpiece does, wack on some crap materia to speed up melding, plus Sastasha HM. Most of the stuff for the Platinum Circlet of Casting is pretty cheap.

I find Qarn to be much better for SB than Satasha. Out of both dungeons, only the 2nd boss of Qarn gives SB for killing the adds. And by much better i mean 10-15% more.

As far as conversion rates, i'd say its definitely 70%+ on i90 gear to get TIV.

**Raldo** · 2014-11-07 15:00

Does anyone have some compared bonding speeds between i90 and i110? I've been hearing reports of roughly 25% bond in current expert dungeons for NQ unmelded i90 gear, but idk how i110 stacks up to that.

I suspect the increased bonding speed of i90 will trump i110 bonding, even if i110 happens to give guaranteed 4s.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-11-09 03:47

Late to the party but... that HQ for master2 book.

I've seen some shit.

**Lebensohl** · 2014-11-09 17:37

i.imgur.com/H1FkdFL.png

For a guide on how to do your turn ins. It can also be used as a guide for how to do four stars (if you remove all mentions of ingenuity II, you don't need that for 4* crafting)

**Hiryo** · 2014-11-09 21:38

Wow thats pretty well done.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-11-09 22:00

Yeah I used that. I don't get the "have a ton of CP" part for step 2, but it worked out pretty well mechanically for me.

**Deadgye** · 2014-11-09 22:09

Is there a nice list of items that can be turned into mastercraft? Or is it basically only the ilvl70 crafting/gathering stuff?

**Lebensohl** · 2014-11-09 23:33

Originally Posted by Deadgye

Is there a nice list of items that can be turned into mastercraft? Or is it basically only the ilvl70 crafting/gathering stuff?

List
1. Artisan Spectacles
...

2. Forager's Hat
...

Everything else

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-11-09 23:35

Well, technically also the arty/forager tools but lol

**Neon_Sea** · 2014-11-10 02:41

Did the maser book craft without a supra then just the 3 fails to go for a supra. Don't have reclaim either, realize I got pretty lucky and could of basically lost all my gill on a bad streak.

**Kaiyoko** · 2014-11-10 04:17

For artisan frypans, is there a higher rate of getting mastercraft in comparison to the specs? I know you get up to 3 but is the rate for even greeting 1 relatively low?

**Hiryo** · 2014-11-10 08:21

I can tell you that last night I got 1 fieldcraft III off my 3rd frying pan.

I think that officially turned me off of frying pan desynths. (to answer your question, I believe you only get mastercrafts and field crafts, so the rate of mastercraft is actually pretty high. But for 1000 shards, a fieldcraft III is practically a failed desynth)

**fantasticdan** · 2014-11-10 21:22

I'm leveling cooking as my first craft(well above level 10), what cross class skills should I focus on getting for it?

**Neon_Sea** · 2014-11-10 21:27

For what? You can get to 50 without ever turning on the oven.

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-11-10 23:23

Originally Posted by fantasticdan

I'm leveling cooking as my first craft(well above level 10), what cross class skills should I focus on getting for it?

WVR15, ALC15, GSM15. If you want to use macros, CRP50 helps a LOT.

**Pooke** · 2014-11-11 22:20

Anyone worried about the investment placed into crafts now for them only for the gear to be obliterated at 3.0? I'm tempted to max gear them out, but I got burned at 2.0 with having several luminaries being rather bland, that its kinda holding me back now...fool me once kind of thing.

**Edelweiss** · 2014-11-11 23:02

Originally Posted by Pooke

Anyone worried about the investment placed into crafts now for them only for the gear to be obliterated at 3.0? I'm tempted to max gear them out, but I got burned at 2.0 with having several luminaries being rather bland, that its kinda holding me back now...fool me once kind of thing.

Long grinds with relatively little RNG risk kind of got supplanted by multi-layer RNG and pretty terrible "fuck you and your materials" dick punches when you're already down (fucking Reclaim, seriously). Unless they back off from the latest approach in 2.5 and beyond, I don't even see myself bothering with whatever shit they'll dump in our mouths with Heavensward; i'm skeptical that i'll even make the money back that I dumped into this latest installment anytime soon, as basically all of no one seems to even give a shit about these DoW/DoM 110s aside from the handful of people from FCs who are actually pushing Final Coil. It's already a somewhat tedious process of competing with the <5 people on the server even able to make this shit as it is.

It's just not fun seeing yourself get fucked by failed HQs on Masterbook IIs and watching your millions disappear because idklol, when all of this is going to be thrown in the trash come the expansion. ALC and CUL are pretty terrible in terms of four-stars too. I genuinely feel bad for anyone who even bothered to get those books, you're probably not getting your money back. lol

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