The crafting & gathering thread.

[shidobu]

Yeah master materias rollercoasting between 650K and 750K still on gilgamesh, so if your churning the stuff out like a machine, its good money. Although you "could" make more gil potentially from selling the crafted gears, master materia sells like crazy fast compared to anything crafted. I posted up 6 master materia yesterday at 700K each (lowest was 670K) and all sold by the time I finished raid about 3 hours later. (someone bought like 15 of'em)

Still holding onto my sealents till I finish my GSM + ALC offhands and then the gathering gears. I should have enough to make my gsm offhand today... or tomorrow.

> i keep getting fucking gold ingots and bullshit. Fkin lucky sob

[Seravi Edalborez]

Hmm, in retrospect I can do the above WN2 rotation with 2 PBP and 2 Rapid, leaving 2 more steps for Hasty or whatever. Guess I'll have to budget room for it. The upside to using CS2's is that you can use them to pad out Great Strides when fishing at the end for a Good. But I suppose the one that gets more Touch opportunities is more reliable.

Just really don't like the idea of possibly breaking synth on a 20% chance. Even if it's less HQ-reliable, I'd rather have 100% chance on the progress portion. NQ better than borked.

[Niiro]

NQ better than borked.

Not if you recover the mats!

[Seravi Edalborez]

That's the thing though. If your last progress thing is Rapid... how do you Reclaim?

v edit: After the amount of times 90% has flipped me the bird... I'm very skeptical of not-100% ._.

[Niiro]

I meant on the off-chance you recover the ingredients without it.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Anyone go nuts with gathering and know how much you'd need to reveal 3* nodes with 1 hit, instead of 2? If it's possible?

[The47thSen]

450 gathering.

edit.

also, 445 percept for 1% hq.

[Edelweiss]

That's the thing though. If your last progress thing is Rapid... how do you Reclaim?

v edit: After the amount of times 90% has flipped me the bird... I'm very skeptical of not-100% ._.

Even 98% might as well be a fucking coin flip, given how many times i've been fucked over at the drop of a hat like that. It's a real kick in the balls. And fuck Reclaim too.

[Jkun]

Even 98% might as well be a fucking coin flip, given how many times i've been fucked over at the drop of a hat like that. It's a real kick in the balls. And fuck Reclaim too.

After 2 1/2 weeks of saving up sealants only for reclaim to fuck me over twice in a row on offhands, all I can say is yes. Fuck it.

[Buffy]

I'm late to the de-synth train:

Are there any fish worth de-synthing solely for crystals/shards?

[Seravi Edalborez]

Find the price of crystal/shards on your server.

Find the price of fish that are less than this.

???

[Buffy]

Oh I didn't think of it that way - I was referring to fish them up yourself, was looking for ways to finish some of the fishing accomplishments at the same time.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Still the same kind of principle; fish that is vendortrash can be desynthed and fish with value can be sold. I believe fish has to be 30+ to generate shards, and 45+ for crystals.

[Buffy]

Still the same kind of principle; fish that is vendortrash can be desynthed and fish with value can be sold. I believe fish has to be 30+ to generate shards, and 45+ for crystals.

Of thanks, the 30+ info is helpful.

[Spider-Dan]

Why is IG2 any worse on 4* than on 3*?

Because you get like 3 more progress with it on a 4* or something ridiculously low.

So for the record, on 4* with 451 Craftsmanship:

Piece by Piece x2 puts you at 322/586 (264 remaining)
Careful Synthesis II = 63, IG2+CS2 = 69
Standard Synthesis = 79, IG2+SS = 87
Rapid Synthesis = 132, IG2+RS = 145

PbPx2 + CS2x2 + [IG2+CS2]x2 = 586 on the nose

Is there a more CP/dura efficient way to complete a 4* without IG2?

[The47thSen]

Try taking shark's fin. With >500 crafts you can do

PbP, RSx2, CS2 x2.

Or for the risk aversed, PbPx3, CS2x2.

[Spider-Dan]

I don't think I'm interested in giving up the 43 CP from Bouillabaisse.

PbP is unaffected by Craftsmanship, so I'd rather use some variation on PbPx3 with Bouilla, as opposed to switching to Shark Fin.

[The47thSen]

SF provides a 14~18CP boost, so that's 25~29CP short compared to Bouilla.
But if we can skip IG2, that's 32CP we don't need, which makes it a fair tradeoff I think.

[Shaano]

about to suicide over 4* synths that are related to gathering/crafting. Doesn't help with alllll the lovely undercutting that goes on. Mats are more expensive now than the craft itself. Thank you Hyperion for eating a bag of dicks. :D

[Hiryo]

I don't think I'm interested in giving up the 43 CP from Bouillabaisse.

PbP is unaffected by Craftsmanship, so I'd rather use some variation on PbPx3 with Bouilla, as opposed to switching to Shark Fin.

The thing is that you lose 32 CP from doing IG2 (and you lose a valuable Xclass skill) so you only gain 11 CP from using Bouillas.
You actually dont need shark find soup, I personally use HQ chilled popoto soup on all my 4star synths using 2 PBP (1 is actually wasted), 1 RS(If I fail 1 its okay, but failing 2 is unacceptable) and 2 CS, all without IG2. The CP overflow is ridiculous on these and you can use Tricks whenever you want. Once I pop MMII, I can choose between WNII for 12~HT or WNI for 10-11, depending on my CP overflow.

But again, the synths are pretty damn flexible so long as you are confident you can make 80%+ HQ sheets and leather.

Edit: I dont even use Reclaim on base mats so I actually should remove it. In fact, I cry every time I make something with 5 HQ sheets/leather for the sheer fact that I'm wasting them.