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**Greedouw** · 2013-09-02 12:51

Glad I'm not paying at the moment; fuck this 1017 bullshit

**Ksandra** · 2013-09-02 12:57

Originally Posted by Alkar

And the majority doesn't care about doing any of that (except FATE but those get old quite fast). If the Duty Finder doesn't work there's really no point in logging on for most people.

I doubt this. Would the majority complain? Yes. Would the majority log in and still do ten million other things? Absolutely.

[edit] in fact, we kinda have proof of that, as there was a point when duty finder was down, and the servers were still full.

**Eleven19** · 2013-09-02 13:02

Perfect time for leveling crafting jobs. I don't recall getting any duty finder required instances for Leatherworking.

**Ksandra** · 2013-09-02 13:26

Originally Posted by Kadaj

Perfect time for leveling crafting jobs. I don't recall getting any duty finder required instances for Leatherworking.

ya plus doing things like lvling your chocobo n' such. Really gotta give credit to SE that they gave people tons of shit to do outside of just grinding dungeons.

**Lucavi** · 2013-09-02 17:56

Originally Posted by brozy

Well...the fact that people are still hammering the servers to get in is a show of how much they want to play, i thought would of died down a bit now with all this shite so in someway the must be doing something right with the game for people to still be going at it this long.

That, and every second you aren't progressing as another second that someone else is cornering a potential market. Being forcibly locked out of potentially making money through crafts kinda sucks.

**Alkar** · 2013-09-02 18:27

Originally Posted by Ksandra

I doubt this. Would the majority complain? Yes. Would the majority log in and still do ten million other things? Absolutely.

[edit] in fact, we kinda have proof of that, as there was a point when duty finder was down, and the servers were still full.

You do realize that those million of other things are locked behind story missions/class quests right? Even if they let people in most wouldn't be able to do anything but grind one of their classes because the instances wouldn't work. I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 instance in one of the class quests before level 10 and that means you wouldn't even unlock crafters or gatherers.
Let's just hope Wednesday comes and everything is fixed, there'd be bitching in any case.

**Ksandra** · 2013-09-02 18:59

Originally Posted by Alkar

I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 instance in one of the class quests before level 10 and that means you wouldn't even unlock crafters or gatherers.

I am pretty sure duty finder instances and individual instances are run differently, and duty finder doesn't unlock until around lvl 15.

Serious question, what do you think all those people were doing when duty finder was down?

Just because you feel like there's nothing else to do, doesn't mean they did. People logged on, and they played. They complained, yes, but it's a huge thing to say there was no reason to log in when we saw that people still logged in and played when it happened

**Akiyama** · 2013-09-02 19:01

I typically get sidetracked. Doing story..doing story.. oh, lemme check leves here, oh..good crafting ones, lemme craft for a bit.. two hours later D:

There's so much to get sidetracked with. Maybe not everyone's that way, and they'd rather go full on power-grind straight to 50 no stops, but I've found, personally, that's what wears me out from a game more often than not

**Alkar** · 2013-09-02 19:05

Originally Posted by Ksandra

I am pretty sure duty finder instances and individual instances are run differently, and duty finder doesn't unlock until around lvl 15.

Serious question, what do you think all those people were doing when duty finder was down?

Just because you feel like there's nothing else to do, doesn't mean they did. People logged on, and they played. They complained, yes, but it's a huge thing to say there was no reason to log in when we saw that people still logged in and played when it happened

They aren't, all instances were down when the Duty Finder was having issues which is why they limited logins and locked character creation. I never said there was no reason to login, I'm saying that most things wouldn't be playable and what's gonna hurt the game more in the end? Server issues or locked content for more than a week? People are hammering the servers because they enjoy the content being offered. The majority of the players in-game is doing story quests and using the duty finder, all you have to do is run around to see it.

**Ksandra** · 2013-09-02 19:07

Originally Posted by Alkar

They aren't, all instances were down when the Duty Finder was having issues which is why they limited logins and locked character creation.

I don't think that's true as I worked on storyline stuff until I hit duty finder till it was down. Some people were kicked, but they didn't disable them unlike duty finder. And you said:

If the Duty Finder doesn't work

Not, "If no instances work."

I never said there was no reason to login

there's really no point in logging on for most people.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-09-02 22:15

On the worst days when you got "can't connect to DF server" it was not able to connect to solo instances for story/class/whatever quests. So somebody who had not yet completed their level 10 first class quest really would not be able to do craft/gather/etc or even level another class.

**Hatedregret** · 2013-09-02 23:14

It's getting worse, not better. I've been trying to log in for almost twelve hours today with zero luck. A nice assortment of 1017, 2002, and cannot find NA servers.

**Dngnhack** · 2013-09-03 02:01

Originally Posted by Hatedregret

It's getting worse, not better. I've been trying to log in for almost twelve hours today with zero luck. A nice assortment of 1017, 2002, and cannot find NA servers.

Are you just trying once every 2 hours or something? I'm able to log on to balmung (my legacy) and goblin (new main) and it's never taken more than 10 minutes or so of spamming. Granted i'm not justifying or even saying 10 minutes is a good amount to spam i honestly wish there was an actual Q to log in even if it meant i had to wait as number 4,999. It's just crazy when i see people say they couldn't get on for 2 hours, 12 hours, all day etc.

**Siatdiat** · 2013-09-03 02:49

Just now I logged in and hit the queue at number 60. After a minute it flickered and I thought I was getting kicked, but it actually updated to 59. First time I have seen the queue update!

**Hyan** · 2013-09-03 03:04

Originally Posted by Dngnhack

Are you just trying once every 2 hours or something? I'm able to log on to balmung (my legacy) and goblin (new main) and it's never taken more than 10 minutes or so of spamming. Granted i'm not justifying or even saying 10 minutes is a good amount to spam i honestly wish there was an actual Q to log in even if it meant i had to wait as number 4,999. It's just crazy when i see people say they couldn't get on for 2 hours, 12 hours, all day etc.

This is my experience too. I wouldn't be able to get in either if I didn't spam for a while first. It never lets me in on the first try unless its the morning/off-hours.

Some people are quite obviously like that. Try a few times, give up. But if they didn't give up so easily, they'd be logged in no time.

**Alkar** · 2013-09-03 04:49

Originally Posted by Ksandra

I don't think that's true as I worked on storyline stuff until I hit duty finder till it was down. Some people were kicked, but they didn't disable them unlike duty finder. And you said:

Not, "If no instances work."

Did you even play when the duty finder server wasn't working? You couldn't progress at all because all instances were down. This is not a theory, it's fact and you can spin it all you want but locking content so that more people can spam FATEs is not a better decision in the long run. At least now if people manage to get in they get the full game and the reports on the gameplay are overwhelmingly positive.
Imagine what would happen if people could login but the features SE has been marketing for months weren't available. Do you really think that would be better?

**Aelfinn** · 2013-09-03 07:34

Originally Posted by Alkar

Did you even play when the duty finder server wasn't working? You couldn't progress at all because all instances were down. This is not a theory, it's fact and you can spin it all you want but locking content so that more people can spam FATEs is not a better decision in the long run. At least now if people manage to get in they get the full game and the reports on the gameplay are overwhelmingly positive.
Imagine what would happen if people could login but the features SE has been marketing for months weren't available. Do you really think that would be better?

when was the last time the duty finder servers were down? I don't think i remember that happening since the EA? I've not had any problems with instances or getting the duty finder to work the last 3-5 days at the very least... with the promised server reinforcements coming tonight, why is this even still an argument?

**SephYuyX** · 2013-09-03 07:53

Originally Posted by Hatedregret

It's getting worse, not better. I've been trying to log in for almost twelve hours today with zero luck. A nice assortment of 1017, 2002, and cannot find NA servers.

US holiday.
Any other day I get on within ~10mins, yesterday it took about 20~30.

**Balb** · 2013-09-03 08:27

Just echoing that yesterday was the worst for me as well. Tried logging in at 8:30AM EST getting every login error possible, restarting client over and over, being kicked from queue 3 out of the 4 times I actually got the message. Didn't actually log in until 8:30PM EST. No I did not spam for 12 hours, but was trying here and there doing other things. Absolute nightmare for a day off...

**xopher** · 2013-09-03 08:28

I got booted yesterday around 7PM. Tried to log in again and got right in. 110 queue. Hyperion Server.

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