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[Niiro]

(notice all the DL gear has VIT on it)

Um...guess you never noticed that all gear has VIT on it.

[Fievel]

I have come to notice how important VIT is for every class in this game (notice all the DL gear has VIT on it) so I started to put VIT on everything I have for non tank jobs because in Duty finder everyone is a tank

VIT is extremely important, yea.

[chichicha]

On the other hand, VIT is extremely not important for DoH and DoL
Unless SE is planning to change the mechanic that they can battle and gain exp too.

Back to Bard, yes, VIT is somewhere after DEX and Crits for BRD...IMO

[JamesRay]

So barring things that need acc (B Coil only?), is darklight legs, hands, and neck worth it for BRD sacrificing the crit rate? Is there a ratio for crit vs dex or does dex always wins?
Everything else is Darklight or Hero's Ring

[Spider-Dan]

I'd say toxote legs/militia hands/imp.op. neck/imp.op wrist are all better than DL.

[blowfin]

So barring things that need acc (B Coil only?), is darklight legs, hands, and neck worth it for BRD sacrificing the crit rate? Is there a ratio for crit vs dex or does dex always wins?
Everything else is Darklight or Hero's Ring

I skipped DL hands for AF2, if you have the mythos to spare then do the same with legs.

Not sure about neck, we get junk stats on most options.

[xellos2099]

I want a suggestion concernign mytho spending. I am currently at 529 mytho and have hero ring. I am still using toxoted hand and leg. Am I better off getting af2 pants next week or af2 hand?

[Seravi Edalborez]

hands:
10dex/11crit > 18/22
+8/11
legs:
16dex/24crit > 29/34
+13/10

I'd say hands now, legs later (cheaper for not too much less benefit by slot), but might want a second opinion.

Going from tox legs to myth legs is also a small accuracy loss which might impact your coil performance, idk.

[Deader2818]

I run with DL head, body, feet, AK hands, myth legs and all other stuff is DL and 2nd ring is AK ring with relic and didn't have any problems with acc in turn 1 and 2.

[chichicha]

My FC mate told me that he read somewhere mentioned, the dmg out from AF2 leg is better than relic+1.

I guess an upgrade for leg is better for hands.

I'll try to find out his reading source.

Currently, I'm planning to upgrade hands and legs and later with my own HQ melded Goldsmith ring, once it's level 50.

[Niiro]

The ilvl 70 melee rings are LTW, not GSM.

[Deader2818]

I think for that its pretty much Legs or hands, then after you get those two upgrade to relic +1.

But I might get body after those too because fuck DL body.

[Katlan]

My FC mate told me that he read somewhere mentioned, the dmg out from AF2 leg is better than relic+1.

I guess an upgrade for leg is better for hands.

I'll try to find out his reading source.

Currently, I'm planning to upgrade hands and legs and later with my own HQ melded Goldsmith ring, once it's level 50.

Pretty much everything is better than relic +1 for bard. That's why you laugh at all those bards who go +1 over any AF2

[Kincard]

you're just jealous my bow glows and yours doesnt

[chichicha]

The ilvl 70 melee rings are LTW, not GSM.

Ah, I'm leveling goldsmith/ weaver and leather concurrently. Luckily :D

Already found a leve quest on Goldsmith for 150k exp per tag. Just time consuming to make it HQ and boring ^.^ (easy to HQ)

Still trying to get Weaver and Leather craft one for similar amount of exp.

[Judai]

Pretty much everything is better than relic +1 for bard. That's why you laugh at all those bards who go +1 over any AF2

Yea, Legs and Body are both easily better and any combo of the other two is pretty close, depending on what you are replacing. I already upgraded Body and Hat before Relic+1, will do Hands/Ring/Legs and then finally +1 it probably.

Also, DL Hands/Legs are a waste, Tox is better for both and hell, even AF is fine for Hands until AF2(for those who have never, ever, seen tox hands...). DET is junk compared to crit. Not only do I laugh at r+1 BRDs with 0 AF2 but also RELIC AND FULL DL BARD shouts.

[AntB]

Yea, Legs and Body are both easily better and any combo of the other two is pretty close, depending on what you are replacing. I already upgraded Body and Hat before Relic+1, will do Hands/Ring/Legs and then finally +1 it probably.

Also, DL Hands/Legs are a waste, Tox is better for both and hell, even AF is fine for Hands until AF2(for those who have never, ever, seen tox hands...). DET is junk compared to crit. Not only do I laugh at r+1 BRDs with 0 AF2 but also RELIC AND FULL DL BARD shouts.

Yeah notice this shiet way too often BRDs in full DL and relic+1, laugh so hard when I see it. I'm still sporting the trusty Tox legs right now until I get my AF2 legs in like 5 more AK. I'll more than likely do ring>>head>>body>>bow+1 in the end also.

[Raldo]

Shifting my post from AF2 vs Relic+1 thread to a more appropriate place...

Furthermore, you shouldn't be using an AK ring in the first place; you should have been using an HQ Spinel.

Is 10 crit really worth ~3DEX? (2DEX/8DTR)

[Judai]

My basic rule is to have crit on everything I can possibly have it on. 507 crit atm and nowhere near done with my BRD as I only have 2 AF2 pieces.

[Jem]

Shifting my post from AF2 vs Relic+1 thread to a more appropriate place...


Is 10 crit really worth ~3DEX? (2DEX/8DTR)

You can meld the ring too remember. DTR cap is probably shitty like 3 or 4 though. But you should be able to get 6 or 7 VIT on it too.

Either way, I have a Toxote's and use HQ Spinel.