Bard Detail

[Seravi Edalborez]

Tox hands are more than fine but they're really rare for some reason so most get DL just to avoid the stigma of still wearing AF (of which, the hands are not terrible anyways).

[Day]

DL hands aren't complete pieces of shit either, I use them in coil over Tox. (until i get AF2 obv)

[Judai]

Just a quick question: Toxotes or Darklight hands? Thanks.

Tox if you got them, DL if you have plenty of Philo to drop on them and need nothing else in the entire world.

[Spider-Dan]

I prefer Militia hands until AF2.

[Redrum]

Hi can someone help me with the whole process of moving from 1.0 to 2.0 now that I final found a copy? I had a lvl 50 Archer/Bard and a few other things on 1.0, do I get any of that or do I have to start over because I don't see an option to carry anything over other than just the looks of my old character.

[Seravi Edalborez]

If you're using the same account as 1.0 (sounds like it), your character retains basically everything but you'll have to do quests still.

Do not that you must be on ARCHER for the guild class quests up to 30 until you "officially" unlock Bard.

[Redrum]

Yep, same account and I played right until 1.0 shut down. Then I loaded this game up and it had my old appearance data there so I just hit load but everything is back to level 1.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Well appearance data isn't the character itself. You should've had the old character data on one of the legacy servers unless you deleted.

[Niiro]

Go into the server list and find your old server, your character should be there.

[Raldo]

Hi can someone help me with the whole process of moving from 1.0 to 2.0 now that I final found a copy?

Bolded section makes me think you screwed something else up. If you owned 1.0, you did not need to purchase 2.0.

[Kalendor]

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=260

input your current stats, then adjust them based on which gear you want to change. iirc, AF2 Body was a 4% increase OVER Relic+1 for me. Hands/Ring will only be a 1ish% increase over Relic+1.

Back to this ... I was just thinking, this only gives you a VERY basic idea, as crits are very special to bards since Wind and Venom reset Blood timer. For instance, if you believe this, DL legs are better than Tox by 0.5%. But factoring in the fact that you loose 24 crit rate, DL _probably_ looses (would need to parse).

That makes AF2 legs way ahead of Relic+1 for me, which sucks because I really like the glowing bow :'(

[AntB]

Back to this ... I was just thinking, this only gives you a VERY basic idea, as crits are very special to bards since Wind and Venom reset Blood timer. For instance, if you believe this, DL legs are better than Tox by 0.5%. But factoring in the fact that you loose 24 crit rate, DL _probably_ looses (would need to parse).

That makes AF2 legs way ahead of Relic+1 for me, which sucks because I really like the glowing bow :'(

It's been said that bow+1 is 1 of the worst pieces. The best bang for the myths is the ring. Then I think it was the legs and then the hands. I'll look for the post I found and edit it in.

Edit: not sure how good the math is but it's the only real topic I've seen on it.

Original Post: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nding-for-BRDs

Used this equation to calculate dmg. [((0.0032 x DEX + 0.4162) x WD) + (0.1 x DEX – 0.3529) + ((DTR – 202) x 0.035))] x (1 + (0.5 x (0.0693 x CRT – 18.486)/100))

Skill speed is not calculated through this so they will vary slightly with skill speed.

The following numbers are dmg increase per myth spent (Note: Ring is compared to AK ring as only one DL/AF+2 ring is available)

Ring - .00497

Legs - .004304

Gloves - .004079

Belt - .003814

Chest - .003395

Helm - .003351

Boots - .003267

Weapon - .003232

Neck - .003078

Ear - .003022

Bracer- .001597

You can see my excel spreadsheet here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Gc&usp=sharing

TL;DR The order you should upgrade your gear to Myth gear is Ring>Legs>Gloves>Belt>Chest>Helm>Boots>Relic+1>Nec k>Earrings>Bracers

[Therin]

That's a good list. It's also worth noting that VIT can be helpful in Coil (for when people eff shit up) so if you find that HP is an issue, you can grab some body pieces early (I did hands first for that reason).

Next buy is ring or Chapeau... I'd be happy with the Allagan ring but it seems to drop from Turn 5 so I'll probably snag the Hero's Ring.

[Deadgye]

That list is slightly wrong because it assumes you're going from full darklight, which is silly considering darklight legs/hands are not what you should be upgrading from. You also need to take into account which pieces give you vit and which don't, since you will take damage in coil. I'm going to strongly recommend hands first, then legs unless you already have enough mytho to get the legs first. Followed most likely by ring and body.

[Spider-Dan]

That list also completely ignores River of Blood, so +crit gear is undervalued.

[AntB]

That list is slightly wrong because it assumes you're going from full darklight, which is silly considering darklight legs/hands are not what you should be upgrading from. You also need to take into account which pieces give you vit and which don't, since you will take damage in coil. I'm going to strongly recommend hands first, then legs unless you already have enough mytho to get the legs first. Followed most likely by ring and body.

Well he does say that he compares the ring to the AK ring, which is why it has the biggest boost. So taking the ring out the upgrade is right, hands will be the best upgrade followed by legs. Personally I bought hands first(replacing AF F Toxotes) and then replaced Toxotes legs with AF2. I'm sitting at 4148 HP right now not in party as BRD, going to hate upgrading my accs tbh.

That list also completely ignores River of Blood, so +crit gear is undervalued.

Oh look, it's you again. Please tell us all how the upgrade priority is wrong, except the ring of course since he's comparing to Toxotes ring. Oh right, you can't. Next time just don't reply to anything I post, thanks.

Edit: Lol'd at your BRD. You have lower DEX than me, you have lower HP than me, you have lower Acc than me, you have lower Crit than me, you have lower Det than me. Lol'd DL ring, unmelded Spinel(I hope you are SBin that solo ring tbh), triple melded neck and wrists WUT. Please just do us all a favor and let the big boys talk will ya.

[Deadgye]

I'll be replacing my lolspinel ring with a HQ gryphonskin in between my legs upgrade and my next upgrade. That'll probably keep me capped in coil for the next month or so.

[AntB]

I'll be replacing my lolspinel ring with a HQ gryphonskin in between my legs upgrade and my next upgrade. That'll probably keep me capped in coil for the next month or so.

Yeah I'm dieing to buy 1 myself but I know I'll be kicking myself since I'm waiting out to see what 2.1 brings. Right now I'm out DPSing anyone that comes near me, so I think I'll be fine for now. :D

Edit: Rather out damaging rather than DPSing, we all know that shiet is broken as hell brb over 9000 dps as a smn.

[Fievel]

lol

[Spider-Dan]

Oh look, it's you again. Please tell us all how the upgrade priority is wrong, except the ring of course since he's comparing to Toxotes ring. Oh right, you can't.

So you want me to tell you how the upgrade priority is wrong... except for where it's wrong? OK, challenge accepted:

So taking the ring out the upgrade is right, hands will be the best upgrade followed by legs.

Did you even read the chart you're pimping? It says legs (.004304) over hands (.004079).

Edit: Lol'd at your BRD. You have lower DEX than me, you have lower HP than me, you have lower Acc than me, you have lower Crit than me, you have lower Det than me.

So apparently, if you've spent more myth on BRD than I have (so far), then River of Blood should be ignored in stat calculations? Well, when you put it that way...

Lol'd DL ring, unmelded Spinel(I hope you are SBin that solo ring tbh), triple melded neck and wrists WUT.

I especially love the part where you bash me for melding and not melding in the same sentence. Let me guess*: you wasted myth on Hero's neck/wrists? I guess you figured why not... your +crit is already more than enough, amirite?

*I say "guess" because for someone that likes to click on profiles and play the gear-means-I'm-right game, your character doesn't seem to be linked to your BG account.