Bard Detail

[AntB]

So you want me to tell you how the upgrade priority is wrong... except for where it's wrong?


So apparently, if you've spent more myth on BRD than I have (so far), then River of Blood should be ignored in stat calculations? Well, when you put it that way...


I especially love the part where you bash me for melding and not melding in the same sentence.

Let me guess: you wasted myth on Hero's neck/wrists? I guess you don't value your time very much...

Lol go away you bad BRD. You are BAD and that's that, you don't need to try and give advice anymore because you can't even take the time to gear your OWN BRD good. Lol no, hell the only DL I bought for BRD was head, body, feet and ear(because I have tons of HP and Acc, gogo extra DEX/Crit). Still sitting on 5 melded neck, wrists and 1 spinel ring, F the other sitting at 3 still cause I blew over 50 materias and still no 4th so I said F this hoe and I'll replace it with heros.

Lol'd at the little edit, yeah I have more crit than you atleast. You barely have enough acc for coil, lol'd HARD. Keep trying young padawan, next please.

[Fievel]

You're an idiot and sound like a tryhard, get the fuck out with that shit.

also

You barely have enough acc for coil

You realize why this is a stupid thing to say, right?

[AntB]

You're an idiot and sound like a tryhard, get the fuck out with that shit.

also


You realize why this is a stupid thing to say, right?

Try hard? Lol'd. Just cause I pay attention to the job I play that makes me a try hard, yeah ok. I'm just loling at this idiot cause he thinks he knows better, which he don't because the order will still be the same minus the ring, which is what was said anyways. It's been said that roughly 480 acc for melee DPS is needed for whole of coil, he scrapes in at 478. Granted, no one knows the true cap needed since it's just speculation at the end of the day. Still stands, lower ERRTHING.

[Spider-Dan]

Where is your profile, king of bards?

I would like to see what more than enough damage looks like, so I can know not to waste my time getting too much +crit.

And if the order is "the same," which comes first, legs or hands? Because you just said hands but your favorite chart says legs.

[Seravi Edalborez]

You know it's a sad day when I pick the side Spider-Dan is on over you, because you just reach astounding levels of braggart dickery.

[Fievel]

Try hard? Lol'd. Just cause I pay attention to the job I play that makes me a try hard, yeah ok. I'm just loling at this idiot cause he thinks he knows better, which he don't because the order will still be the same minus the ring, which is what was said anyways. It's been said that roughly 480 acc for melee DPS is needed for whole of coil, he scrapes in at 478. Granted, no one knows the true cap needed since it's just speculation at the end of the day. Still stands, lower ERRTHING.

It's not the attention to your job that makes you a tryhard, lol. It's the having to scream it in peoples faces as if it gives you some authority that makes you a tryhard. Especially when what you listed off as being your gear is nothing more than standard, it's nothing amazing.

You're shitting up this thread with your poor attempt at dick waving, just do us all a favor and go.

[Raldo]

You know it's a sad day when I pick the side Spider-Dan is on over you, because you just reach astounding levels of braggart dickery.

I could argue with SD that he sinks too much weight into crit over DEX all day, but I gotta agree with this.

[AntB]

Where is your profile, king of bards?

I would like to see what more than enough damage looks like, so I can know not to waste my time getting too much +crit.

And if the order is "the same," which comes first, legs or hands? Because you just said hands but your favorite chart says legs.

It depends what drops for you in AK, if you are like me and Toxotes hands just don't exist, then you'll be upgrading from AF rather than Toxotes. Pretty fkin obvious if you ask me tbh.

Pic as requested:
http://i.imgur.com/ZqsRerW.jpg

You know it's a sad day when I pick the side Spider-Dan is on over you, because you just reach astounding levels of braggart dickery.

Lol I'm just being a dick to the guy because of the other day, that's all.

It's not the attention to your job that makes you a tryhard, lol. It's the having to scream it in peoples faces as if it gives you some authority that makes you a tryhard. Especially when what you listed off as being your gear is nothing more than standard, it's nothing amazing.

You're shitting up this thread with your poor attempt at dick waving, just do us all a favor and go.

Read above. Also at least I know what I'm talking about and actually geared my bard to the best of my ability before I even bother to give people advice. Like I also said on the original post about the items, I don't do math so I wasn't 110% certain how good it was. But to me(minus the ring ofc) It seems the best way to do it, obviously 1st gear would be what you upgrade from, if you have Tox hands and AF legs, well you will do legs and vice versa.

Calling all high posters GTFIH and jump on the little guy.

[Deadgye]

Aside from just plain being a dick, you're also insisting you're right when you're wrong. We pointed out how that chart is not correct, because it's not correct.

Furthermore you're claiming that because you have "better gear" that you know what you're talking about while he doesn't when his gear is following a perfectly fine upgrade path. This is just laughable. It's like claiming that when a 75NIN told me dual wield does not add another hit to a weapon skill that he was right and I was wrong because my NIN was only 37.

[Spider-Dan]

Why did you specifically obscure your character's name? Post a link to your Lodestone profile or GTFO with this "my gear is better!" nonsense.

Also, ITT: "I wear two spinel rings instead of DL ring because I have more than enough crit"? The incredible irony in Mr. "more than enough +crit" bashing someone else for not melding an extra 20 accuracy over the cap to their accessories is extra delicious.

You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[AntB]

Aside from just plain being a dick, you're also insisting you're right when you're wrong. We pointed out how that chart is not correct, because it's not correct.

Furthermore you're claiming that because you have "better gear" that you know what you're talking about while he doesn't when his gear is following a perfectly fine upgrade path. This is just laughable. It's like claiming that when a 75NIN told me dual wield does not add another hit to a weapon skill that he was right and I was wrong because my NIN was only 37.

Please do tell me the correct upgrade path for myths then providing you think you know better, hell just getting the hands, legs and ring itself is going to take like 7 weeks give or take. This is XIV, who gives a shit about XI.

Why did you specifically obscure your character's name? Post a link to your Lodestone profile or GTFO with this "my gear is better!" nonsense.

Also, ITT: "I wear two spinel rings instead of DL ring because I have more than enough crit"? The incredible irony in Mr. "more than enough +crit" bashing someone else for not melding an extra 20 accuracy over the cap to their accessories is extra delicious.

You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Profile link or not, you still see the stats of my BRD. I can add some retarded comment in the chat box calling you a phaggot but then you'll just claim photoshop. Actually I wear 2 spinel rings for the HP I could meld into them, not the crit. Keep fucking trying wise guy. Wasn't it you that laughed at VIT melds in Spinel rings? Or was that Raldo, idk I seen all kinds of retarded in this thread tbh. Just to add, when I grab my heros ring I'll be losing 10 Acc from my melded ring because at the time I needed it and didn't see anything else to meld into it, still I'll be over kill by ~11 but I'm not sure of the acc needed in turn 5 anyways. I'd rather be 10 over and not miss than 10 under and miss.

[Raldo]

That was me who laughed at VIT melds, though that was more because I wanted to isolate which was specifically better for DDing while excluding all other stuff like VIT. I'm fully aware of their utility, and use VIT melds on my accessories that accept melds.

[Spider-Dan]

Please do tell me the correct upgrade path for myths then providing you think you know better, hell just getting the hands, legs and ring itself is going to take like 7 weeks give or take.

Your magical chart says ring -> legs -> hands even though you agree that hands should be first. You have blown up your own position.

What is your character's name? If you are going to click through and criticize others' melds then you damned well better post a link to your profile. Otherwise, shut up and go away. Right now, it's looking like the entirety of your argument is "I bought relic legs before you and I have some additional useless ACC melds, therefore I win."

[Deadgye]

Please do tell me the correct upgrade path for myths then providing you think you know better, hell just getting the hands, legs and ring itself is going to take like 7 weeks give or take. This is XIV, who gives a shit about XI.

I provided them already, in this very thread, multiple times. That you have to ask for them simply means that you haven't been reading shit.

[AntB]

That was me who laughed at VIT melds, though that was more because I wanted to isolate which was specifically better for DDing while excluding all other stuff like VIT. I'm fully aware of their utility, and use VIT melds on my accessories that accept melds.

Ah ok, couldn't remember who it was. Also yeah, VIT is a god send on BRD I'm glad I melded VIT to my accs.

Your magical chart says ring -> legs -> hands even though you agree that hands should be first. You have blown up your own position.

What is your character's name? If you are going to click through and criticize others' melds then you damned well better post a link to your profile. Otherwise, shut up and go away.

Dude are you stupid or something? He said he was upgrading from Toxotes ring, of course the jump is going to be bigger. I don't need to post any profile, you can clearly see my stats are way higher than yours so I'm obviously not unmelded like you are, do the math if you want.

I provided them already, in this very thread, multiple times. That you have to ask for them simply means that you haven't been reading shit.

Whoops sorry mate didn't see it was you who posted under me originally, which I said I agreed on the order. But like I said also, it depends on what you upgrade from too, I definitely wouldn't buy my ring first I tell you that.

[Spider-Dan]

And which melds would those be?

+crit? Nope.
+DTR? Nope, again.
+ACC? Congrats on putting yourself 20 ACC over the cap. Maybe you should have applied "more than enough" to your accuracy check, Mr. More-Money-Than-Brains.
+VIT? You got me, bro.

Again, the entirety of your argument is "I bought relic legs first therefore I'm right."

[AntB]

And which melds would those be?

+crit? Nope.
+DTR? Nope, again.
+ACC? Congrats on putting yourself 20 ACC over the cap. Maybe you should have applied "more than enough" to your accuracy check, Mr. More-Money-Than-Brains.
+VIT? You got me, bro.

Again, the entirety of your argument is "I bought relic legs first therefore I'm right."

Lmfao you really are fkin stupid right? You can't meld crit to them, I melded det to them after capping both VIT(main priority) and adding extra acc I needed at the time and finished with Det. Also I bought fucking hands first, atleast get it right.

[Spider-Dan]

Dear Dr. Einstein,

Based on your refusal to post your name, the only visible difference between your gear and mine is that:

1) you have HQ Spinel instead of DL ring
2) you have relic legs instead of Toxote

Otherwise, you have the same gear with some additional completely useless ACC melds. Again, congrats on the waste of money.

If you are going to play the gear card, at least be decked out in i90? You're just a poser (/coward) who tried to use gear as an substitute for intelligence. Enjoy that extra accuracy, champ!

[AntB]

Dear. Dr. Einstein,

Based on your refusal to post your name, the only visible difference between your gear and mine is that:

1) you have HQ Spinel instead of DL ring
2) you have relic legs instead of Toxote

Otherwise, you have the same gear with some additional completely useless ACC melds. Again, congrats on the waste of money.

If you are going to play the gear card, at least be decked out in i90? You're just a poser (/coward) who tried to use gear as an excuse for intelligence. Enjoy that extra accuracy, champ!

You seemed to forget the extra crit, dex, det, hp pretty much everything more than you. Guess you didn't notice the whole fkin 300 HP extra I have over you, right? I'll post SS of each acc if you like, but it'd be stupidly silly if I had so much higher stats than you using only AF2 legs. Yea like I need money, it's worthless in this game when you have so much. I'll enjoy all the extra stats I have over you, thanks. Nice try tho for going for so long, didn't expect anything less from a 3k poster on BG, nice try Sir!

[Deadgye]

but it'd be stupidly silly if I had so much higher stats than you using only AF2 legs.

Toxotes -> Relic legs gives you +13dex, +15vit, -17acc, +10crit, +17det. You personally have +12dex, +19vit, +23acc, +9crit, +14det over him. So yes, that is the only difference. If he obtained the mythos for his legs he'd have more dex than you, more crit than you, more det than you, and 4 less vit. You didn't even put the tiniest bit of effort into researching before you started shit talking.