Bard Detail

[TuckerMax]

I did legs > ring > hands and going to do body then finally +1ing. A big part of me regrets it though, I really wish I had just gone in ignorant so my weapon would be glowing right now lmao. I'm looking at like 5 more weeks or some shit before getting to weapon. I still might yolo and just get weapon next and take the abuse from FC.

As stated earlier in thread by several folks, it prob makes most sense to do hands/ring first, but i had enough for legs at the time of the decision and went with those to get an expensive piece out of the way.

I did what you mentioned and acted ignorant haha. Currently sitting on +1 and AF2 Legs with 300 ToM to come this week.

Would it be wise to grab the Hero's Ring first since we have Turn 1 and Turn 2 on lock which may drop the Gloves and Visor respectively? I suppose i'll have to wait and see what this weeks drops hold regardless, cmon rng.

Also, with Gryphonskin upgrades, i've got a ring currrently penta-melded and was looking towards another piece, would you recommend wrists or neck first?

[Judai]

I don't think anyone in this thread is taking Tox vs DL personal other than you. I own both hands so I have no reason whether to root for one or another and I have so much philo I have most the philo pets including the wind up qiqirn as to not regret throwing some on the hands.

So let me tell you, 11 crit is much less effective than 2 dex and 8 det. It's not a matter of the accuracy. The bards with highest DPS are *not* the ones with highest crit rate, it's the ones with highest base damage who take the medal.

I highly doubt 11 crit accounts for 1% crit but even if it did, lowering your base damage for 1% crit isn't worth it. It's not a matter of accuracy at all.

Take a look at allagan bracelets (BiS for bard). Dex 13, det 8. Vs dl bracelt, dex 9 crit 9. You are getting dex +4 det +8 crit -9 on that upgrade. And I assure you it's the better choice.

Tox hands aren't bad, but they are definitively not better than DL hands. Under no scenario whatsoever.

wat. Did you read my posts?

Go figure out the crit formula, oh wait someone pointed it out and guess what, 11 crit is almost 1%. Shocking.
I clearly say, +4DEX is probably too much of a difference to compare pieces, but you do anyways. Good Job.
Your BIS is under the acc cap? Ok.
Considering I almost never have the higher base dmg then the full DL BRDs I parse against, your statement is completely wrong.

The only thing I take "personal" is people posting completely wrong information. I stated awhile ago that there is probably some nice middle ground between DET and Crit but the focus for BRD should be on Crit, instead of DET imo. Of course, since there have been multiple, "I don't want to read or use the search thread feature to find the info I am looking for", posts the last few pages, clearly people don't really care.

[Therin]

Also, with Gryphonskin upgrades, i've got a ring currrently penta-melded and was looking towards another piece, would you recommend wrists or neck first?

The only piece you need is the Ring. The rest can come from myth or Allagan T1-4. That will get you nearly 4500 HP, which is more than enough for any current content.

Ring of Aiming comes from T5, so you probably won't see it for a while.

[Deadgye]

I'd say neck/wrist can be done in whatever order you want since you already have the ring. Whichever one gives the biggest stat boost.

[chichicha]

edited my first post to make summary of thread, hopefully ... helps for beginner on Bards.
Of course, I am not right with all details mentioned there, if there is any to be corrected, please do post here. I will try to pick them up and edit into my first post.

Cheers!

[Judai]

wat. Really hope this is, HEY LOOK AT ME GEAR. Cause....ugh.

[Biggz]

Obviously superior cus of all dat allagan

[Therin]

That's not her Turn 5 gear, if that's what you're wondering. Otherwise what would be the problem?

[Seravi Edalborez]

Without knowing the stats on those pieces on sight I'd guess that's a ton of acc over cap.

Bow looks pretty rad though.

[Fake]

wat. Really hope this is, HEY LOOK AT ME GEAR. Cause....ugh.

Stop acting like this is ffxi and theres an ace's helm in there.

[Rocl]

the problem is someone rolled a lalafell and took it seriously

[Deadgye]

Just want to confirm since I've finally started to get annoyed by it: There's no way for us to turn off our songs except by activating the ability again, which means we can't turn it off in between the global cool down, right?

[Kelenae]

Just want to confirm since I've finally started to get annoyed by it: There's no way for us to turn off our songs except by activating the ability again, which means we can't turn it off in between the global cool down, right?

Ya, you cant do that in between the global cooldown. Have to click on it again.

[Judai]

Without knowing the stats on those pieces on sight I'd guess that's a ton of acc over cap.

Bow looks pretty rad though.

Just the opposite, well under for Coil, and I don't think food would even get them there. I think it was 455 or so accuracy, idr and don't feel like adding it up again though. I guess you could say it's a skill speed build... Bow/Body/Ears/Wrists all have skill speed as the top stat.

[Day]

I mean they cleared turn 5 so.....

[Judai]

That's not her Turn 5 gear, if that's what you're wondering. Otherwise what would be the problem?

Good to know.

What's wrong with the gear? Being overly critical about it, Head/Ears/Wrists are all pretty bleh in terms of actual stats. Belt would probably be one of the last Mythos upgrades to do, especially since they have DL legs on and other accessories would be better. I mean, this build looks to be focused on Skill Speed and then DET. It's just a gear set that falls in line with what most BRDs do, put on whatever is the higher iLvl gear and figure it's better.

I did say that I figured/hoped it was town gear and wasn't simply assuming it was their full time gear. I just found the gear set to be kind of bleh in terms of actual use and I'm just nit picking the gear selection/upgrades of the first A.Bow I have seen. It's pretty much the complete opposite idea of my ideal build. I was mostly just posting it because it's one of, if not THE, first Bows though.

I mean they cleared turn 5 so.....

point being?

[Day]

point being is you look lol by trying to be an insufferable douche about someone's gear choices all the time, when they clearly know what they are doing enough to clear turn 5. but whatev gets your rocks off man. I doubt they wore than in turn 5... but even if they did, what diff does it make?

[Judai]

point being is you look lol by trying to be an insufferable douche about someone's gear choices all the time, when they clearly know what they are doing enough to clear turn 5. but whatev gets your rocks off man. I doubt they wore than in turn 5... but even if they did, what diff does it make?

and you guys really look way too much into shit, some seriously thin skinned people in here who can't take any criticism on gear choices. I didn't say anything other then "hope it's town gear or ugh" until asked what was wrong with it, if it wasn't.

I don't remember you being such a whiny little baby.

[Kiarax]

It's just a gear set that falls in line with what most BRDs do, put on whatever is the higher iLvl gear and figure it's better.

Thankfully it almost always is thanks to how heavily primary stats are weighted!

[Carraway]

I think it was 455 or so accuracy, idr and don't feel like adding it up again though. I guess you could say it's a skill speed build... Bow/Body/Ears/Wrists all have skill speed as the top stat.

455 with HQ Stuffed Cabbage or NQ/HQ Lava Toad Legs should be good enough for turn 5. 472 nets you ~98-99% accuracy; haven't seen a miss yet with 474 (but I've had far fewer attempts at that exact accuracy range).

I'm not necessarily defending this person because I'm too lazy to wardrobe this exact gear set, but one of the problems with planning for a best-in-slot set according to mythology purchases is that the best-laid plans get wrecked by drop RNG. And as mentioned above, trying to min/max your det/speed/crit/etc. is basically meaningless when comparing the primary stat gains in a ilvl 70-90 jump. If CT drops ilvl 85, then you might see certain CT pieces being used instead of their Allagan counterparts depending on item distribution, but primary stat is god. If this guy or girl is specifically gunning for skill speed, yeah, that's not a great choice, but that can't really be deduced just from looking at that gear set without any context.