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[Jem]

Does anyone else have issues with Repelling Shot? I've been having a few instances lately where it starts performing the jump back but stops mid-jump and seemingly goes 'Actually, you didn't fire off that at all' (i.e. doesn't fire / doesn't put it on cooldwon)

It's annoying the hell out of me and I can't tell if its just shitty latency on my end or a problem with the ability. It tends to happen when I try use it too close to a GCD ability but I don't have the same issue with BL/ME/Blunt not firing in the same situation.

[Deadgye]

I'll do some parsing with low accuracy next time we attempt twintania (hopefully this week). One thing to note is that the accuracy gains are reverse exponential. You get up to 95% very easily with low accuracy, and then spend a lot of accuracy getting to 99%. Then that last 1% takes even more accuracy.

There comes a point where giving up stats to cap your accuracy to 100% actually results in less damage. When that's applicable, the only times you should be aiming for 100% accuracy is when one missed hit could fuck everything up; silencing on turn 2 for example.

Also lol at the ignorance and then arrogance of telling people to maximize damage with dots on Ifrit extreme. You got called out appropriately on not even knowing the fight, learn to accept it. I don't apply any dots to the first set of nails because it's a waste of time. Second set of nails if you're dotting more than two nails that aren't the current party's focus you're probably losing damage because people aren't robots. Third set of nails the same applies, but "maximizing damage" by spreading dots is even worse because you want to focus down certain nails as fast as possible to make dealing with boomies and chains as easy as possible.

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The only time I've had that problem with repelling shot is when I try to use it to get the killshot. Otherwise the only problem I've had with it is not using it fast enough or in time because of animation lock.

[Seravi Edalborez]

I get Repelling Not when mobs go out of my line of sight after (trying to) using it; Titan walking back after Geocrush or Garuda (HM) walking back after first Mistral Shriek for example. Same with any melee move that fires partially (on your screen) then says "wait, no that didn't happen".

[Raldo]

The repelling shot thing happens to me periodically. The loss of line-of-sight things mentioned above are obvious reasons, but sometimes there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to it. I most often see the issue during Twintania when it's safe to use (like on conflags), and sometimes that just happens. Like you mentioned, it usually happens when I'm smashing buttons like a maniac.

[Kincard]

Do we even know if accuracy grows at a linear rate?

EDIT:

I'll do some parsing with low accuracy next time we attempt twintania (hopefully this week). One thing to note is that the accuracy gains are reverse exponential. You get up to 95% very easily with low accuracy, and then spend a lot of accuracy getting to 99%. Then that last 1% takes even more accuracy.

Oh.

[Spider-Dan]

I get the cancelled animation on lots of stuff; it'll fire off one of the two VB arrows and then stop, it'll start spinning for IR and then stop, etc.

I chalked it up to latency.

[Deadgye]

Do we even know if accuracy grows at a linear rate?

EDIT:

Oh.

Looking again at some data right after I posted that, since I wanted to double check myself. I was probably incorrect: The actual gains of %accuracy per accuracy is probably linear. It's just that the gain per point is very low and we start at a high base of like ~85%. The armor that physicals use almost always gives us enough accuracy to quite easily get to ~95%. And then the push to 100% feels reverse exponential because the places where you can squeeze in more accuracy and the things you can do to squeeze in more accuracy aren't as available and give numerically smaller acc gains.

[Ksandra]

The million dollar question is, when is putting more acc going to actually hurt your overall dps because of losing out on other stats.

[Kincard]

It sounds like that at least using Ultima's Choker isn't BIS if that's the case.

And I dunno how relevant it'd end up being since most just use it whenever anyway, but the biggest single point losses like missing windbite or a straighter shot can be negated if you use Hawk's Eye. At the very least it devalues accuracy on BRD because it'll be a non-issue ~20% of the time.

Thinking about it, if you play with a consistent group I dunno how well it'd work but maybe you could even use RoD again, dunno if that'd increase the group's overall damage, by having everyone gear ignoring accuracy and then have the bard use RoD.

[Deadgye]

It sounds like that at least using Ultima's Choker isn't BIS if that's the case.

And I dunno how relevant it'd end up being since most just use it whenever anyway, but the biggest single point losses like missing windbite or a straighter shot can be negated if you use Hawk's Eye. At the very least it devalues accuracy on BRD because it'll be a non-issue ~20% of the time.

Thinking about it, if you play with a consistent group I dunno how well it'd work but maybe you could even use RoD again, dunno if that'd increase the group's overall damage, by having everyone gear ignoring accuracy and then have the bard use RoD.

Neck slot definitely isn't a slot with a definitive BiS. Allagan choker or Ultima are both worth having/using though.

The idea of having people not worry about accuracy and using rain of death for important moments is interesting though. I might start using it so healers can land their dots. Tanks need to be 100% accuracy though. One missed attack when a mob spawns can easily cause a wipe.

[fren.]

Always the gimpest one that barks the highest

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5271341/

Curious, what's wrong with his gear?

[Rocl]

ugly dye choices & inferior race

ugly face on top of inferior race

shit tier guardian and lack of minions/mounts

has not mapped east shroud, satasha, or turn 5

2/10 would not invite

[Spider-Dan]

Curious, what's wrong with his gear?

Spending 900 myth on Zenith while rocking melded i70 body and allagan gloves = bad at math.

[Kincard]

shit tier guardian

fuck you buddy

oschon master race

if you dont choose a wind guardian youll be gimping WINDbite damage scrubs

[Seravi Edalborez]

Llymlaen is top tier wind guardian so idk what you scrubs are talking about.

[Rocl]

It's 2014 and you're not on that Thaliak shit? (by virtue of him being Louisoix's patron saint)

It's like you don't even realize he's the guy who canned 1.0 in favour of 2.0

Llymlaen was deffo that bitch in 1.0 for sure.

(Unrelated, but was it Halone or Azeyma for 2009?)

[Aeris Ashe]

"inferior race". lalafells are harder to target and distinguish in pvp, much more useful than 1 DEX increase.

[Evane]

ugly dye choices & inferior race

I thought it was a play on being on Coeurl server. Also dats racist.

[Deadgye]

"inferior race". lalafells are harder to target and distinguish in pvp, much more useful than 1 DEX increase.

I once had a match where as a bard I murdered the enemy bard first, while everyone else was on the healer. They were both lalafells, and I thought I was attacking the healer the entire time.

[Aeris Ashe]

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