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    The boots are bitch no shit. I think we've seen maybe 2 pair. Maybe I have the only ones that dropped, not 100%. I fucked up and passed a bunch of stuff last patch that I should have lotted... struggling on ACC right now. Went and bought all the heros stuff I didn't have, still at like 476 i think with food >.< Fuck. Got wave bow yesterday that thing looks cool as shit!


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    I'm currently using my allagan head, ultima neck, gryphonskin bracelet, and gryphonskin ring in order to put myself at 473+9 accuracy for turn 6. I missed about once every other attempt, so a good 99%+ accuracy.

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    Hmm shit I dont have ultima choker or allagan head. Hoping 476 is close enough to squeeze by until I can pick up some more acc. Was trying a few days ago at like 440 that shit was lol.

    I guess if I really, really had to I could swap alla boots for ballad boots but I almost refuse to take those fuckers off. I'm going to have to miss a ton to do that.

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    I spent a good 2-3 hours in there before I remembered I could switch out my myth head for the allagan head, lol. It wasn't until we started drinking and paying 5k whenever we got eaten that I remembered about it lol.

    I'll probably buy the weathered earrings next week for the accuracy and dex. And thus forth shall my critical hit rate start to dwindle, week by week.

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    IF I buy the Weathered Tabard this week, should I shoot for this set? Not sure about the acc requirements for some of the new content...

    Zenith
    Bard Chap.
    W. Auroral Tabard
    Bards Ringbands
    Heros Belt Aiming
    Bards Pants
    Bards Sandals (fuck you T4)

    Ultima Choker
    Heros Earrings
    Heros Bracelet
    Heros Ring
    Gryphorskin (need the acc I think?)

    Edit: Whats the price tag on some of the Saurian stuff? Particulary looking at the Belt and the Boots for DAT ACC INCREASE.

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    If you need accuracy, why are you going for the Tabard first...
    Nvm, just looked at the Auroral set... that would be because all the acc armor pieces come with skill speed.
    If you need accuracy, why don't you buy the Auroral Earrings/Wrists first?

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    so I came in here to ask what acc cap was for t6 (and for t5 since I'm being asked to brd it tonight lol), looks like 485~490 somewhere for t6 (does anyone have a parse/google doc?), my only suggestion for some folks is to swap food for even more acc (like lava toad legs hq) which will bring you over cap, then adjust accessories to bring down acc but bring up dps stats I guess, that's my thought process on that anyway.

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    I don't even think its possible to bu body first and be able to use it in any of the new content, you have to first get the accessories and the other acc gear. unless you purpose in getting it immediately is for reskin... which is a waste. Maybe if you are using both turn 5 pants and ring you could

    Quote Originally Posted by Indomitable Will View Post
    so I came in here to ask what acc cap was for t6 (and for t5 since I'm being asked to brd it tonight lol), looks like 485~490 somewhere for t6 (does anyone have a parse/google doc?), my only suggestion for some folks is to swap food for even more acc (like lava toad legs hq) which will bring you over cap, then adjust accessories to bring down acc but bring up dps stats I guess, that's my thought process on that anyway.
    looks to be about 480 for turn 6, your gonna need about 500ish for turn 7

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    473+9 is enough for me to only miss once every other attempt, as I mentioned before.

    Definitely wouldn't recommending getting the body unless you have enough accuracy already.

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    I have to do the Weathered Hands first; dying for ACC right now. With ~470 ACC, I still miss on Lev Ex spumes pretty often for some reason (like several times a fight). Am I crazy?

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    I'd do ring unless you're dead-set on getting a highly-visible armor piece or getting more VIT. You're going to end up using it because we have two rings slots anyway. Ring will get you +13 acc, while hands only gets you +8. Lets face it, the Garuda ring kinda sucks anyway.

    Wrists would also work for an accuracy gain (+17).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I'd do ring unless you're dead-set on getting a highly-visible armor piece or getting more VIT. You're going to end up using it because we have two rings slots anyway. Ring will get you +13 acc, while hands only gets you +8. Lets face it, the Garuda ring kinda sucks anyway.

    Wrists would also work for an accuracy gain (+17).
    I bought ring last night, just because I was still using a darklight ring (recently leveled brd, went from i79 to i89 this week), and am considerably lower than the acc cap (I think) for t5 without acc food, adn the ring was the cheapest/fastest upgrade for me personally.

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    I bought waist first for the vit. I'm going earring next for the acc. Then probably wrists, though I'll lose vit since I haven't managed to get ifrits. Body last. Ring idk when.

    If I can get the pant to drop off turn 5 then I'll probably go for the body earlier. If you have acc problems you shouldn't even be looking at the body yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    If you need accuracy, why are you going for the Tabard first...
    Nvm, just looked at the Auroral set... that would be because all the acc armor pieces come with skill speed.
    If you need accuracy, why don't you buy the Auroral Earrings/Wrists first?
    Auroral Wrists/Earrings are only a +3/+8 accuracy increase. Ring would probably make the most sense...it's all about style though amirite? xD

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    Did some digging in and it would seem you need roughly +140~ accuracy before food (?) to be capped for current content. This would gives you 481 and probably close to 500 with cabbage.

    Zenith Bow - 37
    Chapeau - 15
    Body - 24
    Hands - 15
    Belt - 0
    Legs - 0
    Feet - 0

    Choker - 10 (if using ultima which I am)
    Earrings - 11
    Bracelet - 16
    Ring 1 - 0
    Ring 2 - 0


    That is my current set up and it puts me @ 469 before food, which is a little short. Getting the tabard would hurt the accuracy so bad right now that I don't think it would be feasible, so....

    Take out the ultima choker for Hero's/Allagan (-10 acc)
    Buy the Auroral Ring for Ring 2 which is + 13 acc
    And buy the feet cause eff T4 for another + 16 acc

    For a net of + 19 over the previous set which lands at 488 before food....


    Good plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I'd do ring unless you're dead-set on getting a highly-visible armor piece or getting more VIT. You're going to end up using it because we have two rings slots anyway. Ring will get you +13 acc, while hands only gets you +8. Lets face it, the Garuda ring kinda sucks anyway.

    Wrists would also work for an accuracy gain (+17).
    I had actually been using the semi-terrible Allagan Hands (0 ACC). Ended up opting to gear SMN first instead of grabbing BRD hands and so the Weathered Hands would be +23ACC for me. I'll probably do Hands > Wrists > Ring. The weathered wrists are still pretty solid with Crit / ACC vs Skill Speed / ACC on Ring. If you had been using Inferno Bangle like I was, the wrists are a straight 17 ACC gain.

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    I put this together, prioritizing Critical Hit > Determination over accuracy, should be BiS for BRD post-2.2. Now as far as accuracy goes it obviously more than likely has enough for most if not all content post patch. We have 2 bows with accuracy, and 2 bows with Critical Hit. For Accuracy we have Artemis Bow Animus(i100): +40 and High Allagan Composite Bow(i115): +32. For Critical Hit we have Tidal Wave Bow(i100) +40 and Rosenbogen(i110) +31.

    As I haven't really ever had accuracy issues with Artemis Bow Zenith, I feel the easiest way to gear up, instead of making a whole gear set for each weapon, would be to just strive for the set above and swap weapons as needed. If you don't need the accuracy use Tidal Wave Bow or Rosenbogen if you have them. If you do need accuracy just swap to Artemis Bow Animus as it has even more accuracy than High Allagan Composite Bow, it should keep you high enough on content that requires more accuracy than what you have. Btw, I'm not saying to use Artemis Bow Animus over High Allagan Composite Bow. I'm using it as an accuracy comparison versus Tidal Wave Bow or Rosenbogen. If you still need accuracy even with Artemis Bow Animus you can use food.

    Putting up food comparisons with the set posted above:

    Black Truffle Risotto would give:

    15 Determmination (cap 17) Max stat required: 340
    22 VIT (cap 19) Max stat required: 380
    9 Crit (cap 11) Max stat required: 550


    Button in a Blanket would give:

    15 Determination (cap 16) Max stat required: 320
    17 VIT (cap 15) Max stat required: 375
    9 Crit (cap 10) Max stat required: 500

    Lava Toad Legs would give:

    24 Acc (cap 27) Max stat required: 540
    22 VIT (cap 19) Max stat required: 380
    9 Crit(cap 11) Max stat required: 550

    Deviled Eggs would give:

    24 Crit (cap 24) Max stat required: 480
    17 VIT (cap 14) Max stat required: 350
    9 Acc (cap 10) Max stat required: 500

    Apkallu Omelette would give:

    24 Crit (cap 27) Max stat required: 540
    22 VIT (cap 19) Max stat required: 380
    9 Acc (cap 11) Max stat required: 550

    So even with the BiS set above the only difference between Black Truffle Risotto and Buttons in a Blanket even with the new percentages is that Black Truffle Risotto gives 4 more VIT. Same thing for Lava Toad Legs and Deviled Eggs. So it looks like 2-star food are still worthless unless you actually need the extra VIT for some reason.

    Comparing damage stats on Buttons in a Blanket versus Deviled eggs with the set above you basically trade 15 Critical Hit for 15 Determination between the two. So technically Deviled Eggs would probably be more efficient between the 2, especially with massive Critical hit reduction BRD's get with with BiS in this new patch.


    EDIT: Some how missed the accuracy on Tidal Wave Bow: + 28, so would actually be a better bow for accuracy than Artemis Bow Animus at i100. At least until i110 relic is released.

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    Why did you pick h.allagan ears/wrist over auroral ears/wrist? It seems like a silly choice to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    Why did you pick h.allagan ears/wrist over auroral ears/wrist? It seems like a silly choice to me.
    I just noticed that and fixed it 2 seconds after you posted lol

    Wrists should be better though since we already have 499 acc with the allagan, so the skill speed should be better unless you need the accuracy. Since I was already at 499 accuracy without food with the high Allagan Wrists, they should technically be better even if only very marginally. But yeah, I messed up on ear slot, Auroral would be far better.

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    Edit: dang, super beaten.

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    Still trying to decide on my soldiery spending....


    Purchase Body:
    http://imgur.com/DB722tR,zkVYev1#0

    Have to use Ultima Choker, Gryphonskin Ring and Ballad Belt for the Acc hit...

    Totals:
    +126 Accuracy...with HQ cabbage that is 488 accuracy
    218 Dex, 175 crit, 54 Determination



    Auroral Ring/Feet:
    http://imgur.com/DB722tR,zkVYev1#1

    Now can use Allagan Neck, Hero's Belt, and Auroral Ring over Ultima Neck/Ballad Belt/Gryhponskin Ring.

    +146 accuracy...487 without any food, free to use a more crit/determination focused food.

    227 Dex, 169 Crit, 33 Determination


    I think it is obvious that the ring/feet combo is much better to start with...that 9 dex alone makes the -6 crit and -21 determination not matter yes? But god I want to get outta that pink shirt........

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