Bard Detail

[Katlan]

the words I bolded were clearly 100% random. No thought process at all

[kmexe]

Its Ok, he's using autotranslate.

[Carraway]

At i108, your target should be around 360 encDPS with two full MP bars of Paeon and no Disembowel.

[Kipling]

Well I hear a lot of bards with my gear should be at 350+

I run paeon a lot during the fight mainly for our DRG. I probably do about 2-2.5k mp worth of Paeon. 1k MP worth of Ballad. Throw in a bunch of requiem.
-I know me re-applying straight shot is something that hurts my dps. I need to get better at that. I find when I save it to the end I sometimes forget about it lol.
-for T8 I actually don't do all that much for the fight. Since our OT does all the missile running I just run into the Dreadnaught platform and do another platform if the damage increase debuff gets on somebody who I will need to cover for

I sing no ballad, and if I did it would be for the SMN as opposed to our healers. However, from experience I can say as long as the SMN isn't using Miasma 2 irresponsibly (IE - only using it when contagion + foes or contagion + raging is up) then your MP is fine. You'll get close and may need to energy drain once or twice but it's not a huge loss overall.

As a healer main who does the fight every week without ballad (from both WHM and SCH perspectives) I know my healers shouldn't need ballad anyway.

I also just do towers on BRD in terms of duties in our alt group, I get the mines tower every time with my MNK friend.

Are you always facing the boss? If you arent facing the enemy, you wont do AAs. With legacy controls its quite easy to be facing the wrong way.

While this is true, it's very easy to learn how to strafe while playing on legacy controls. When I started playing BRD and Melee more I really had to teach myself how to do this (I always main healer so it's never really an issue), but it's definitely possible to be just as efficient as someone who plays standard. You're right though, it's a huge dmg loss if you're not good at it.

If you need to sing Paeon for your DRG so much then he needs to learn to manage his own TP better.

A BRD singing Paeon is gonna hurt your group's damage a lot more than the DRG dropping Phleb from his rotation for a bit until Invigorate can catch up.

...What? Why would you ever ask a melee to slow down or drop things from their rotation? If it was something stupid like fracture... sure, but phleb? No way. Unfortunately this is just part of BRD's duties, especially when your DRG or MNK (if they're good, mind you) will be out damaging you most of the time. I have a MNK so there's no way I'd be top DPS against a MNK and a BLM anyway, even though my DPS is good, so I might as well help those who will out damage me parse even higher.

At i108, your target should be around 360 encDPS with two full MP bars of Paeon and no Disembowel.

This is around what I hit at i109 these days in our alt group (Missing hands from t7 to be finished) sans DRG and doing regular Paeons for both myself and the MNK. Foes obviously whenever I can as well. This is from our clear this week. I have HA weapon, but BLM and MNK do not.

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[Deadgye]

I can't imagine actually hitting 360 until I get my h.allag bow. I might be able to make it if I don't have to sing more than 2k worth of paeon, but definitely not 2 full applications. (Not that I can imagine ever needing paeon up that long in the first place.)

[Ayer]

At ilvl 106 (no HA bow, two crafted pentamelded rings), I do 370 dps with 1.5 full paeons, and homing missile/brainjack/mines + tower if the wrong person gets field, but the fight is so friendly to DPS, I still feel like my DPS is low. I wish I had another BRD who could be paeon bitch for me.

[HitomeOfBismarck]

Uryuu hit 355-360 a couple times before obtaining his HA bow IIRC. I will go dig up the parse if need be. I think 360 is pretty reasonable depending on your gear.

For me, it was very hard to hit above 330 due to the gear I had obtained which had me at around 450 skill speed and low CRIT/DET plus I was stuck singing balad and paeon quite a bit.

This week, I decided to cater to our BLM so my duties involved requiem only and about a ~500 MP paeon for myself.

Context: i105 BRD
At the time, this was my gear.
Stats:
498 ACC
504 CRIT
280 DET
453 Skill Speed
Song usage: All requiem except a 500 MP paeon
The MNK and SMN had i115 weapons, the BLM and I had i110

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Will report back in a few weeks when I'm able to test my new bow in T8 and snag Amon's legs from ST. Setup looks like this currently w/o the legs:

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NGGE

At ilvl 106 (no HA bow, two crafted pentamelded rings), I do 370 dps with 1.5 full paeons, and homing missile/brainjack/mines + tower if the wrong person gets field, but the fight is so friendly to DPS, I still feel like my DPS is low. I wish I had another BRD who could be paeon bitch for me.

Do you run with a DRG?

[Detzu]

What is the accuracy requirement for BRD on T9? I don't trust reddit since they talk about 471 acc for T6.

[thinkfinks]

If you are tanking a golem is 510 otherwise just have it about 500 as you will be in front of the boss for most of the last phases

[Deadgye]

500+ is good enough usually. If you do miss due to attacking from the front you probably won't even notice unless it was a dot on golems or darnus or something.

[Detzu]

Thanks for the replies guys.

[Day]

I did some personal testing in T9 before HA bow with different foods etc. 498 you'll miss about 2-4 times a run, not a huge deal. At 503 I dont miss at all, and I tank a golem for a bit on our team.

[Judai]

What is the accuracy requirement for BRD on T9? I don't trust reddit since they talk about 471 acc for T6.

471 is flank, you should learn that there is a different accuracy requirement for Front-515/Flank-490/Back-471 attacks.

I personally did T9 with 490s accuracy(which is the flank requirement), even tanking Dalmuds because at that level, the misses are rare. 515 is the actual front accuracy number, which I still don't have with HA Bow(508 acc now) and I rarely miss so I'm not worried about it.

[Detzu]

471 is flank, you should learn that there is a different accuracy requirement for Front-515/Flank-490/Back-471 attacks.

I personally did T9 with 490s accuracy(which is the flank requirement), even tanking Dalmuds because at that level, the misses are rare. 515 is the actual front accuracy number, which I still don't have with HA Bow(508 acc now) and I rarely miss so I'm not worried about it.

They talked about 471 acc for both melee and brd on flank for T6.

[Seravi Edalborez]

They talked about 471 acc for both melee and brd on flank for T6.

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[Judai]

They talked about 471 acc for both melee and brd on flank for T6.

BRD accuracy caps are the same as Melee so I don't get your point.

[Detzu]

Um I thought the requirements were a bit higher on T6 since a DRG in my FC said he has missed with 486 acc, must have been the bee then.

[Judai]

I don't think you understand the concept of different accuracies for Front/Flank/Back. Look at the pic Seravi posted. The dragoon probably missed the Bee from the front or Raff from the front while avoiding Devour, where the Acc cap is listed as 499+.

[Detzu]

I don't think you understand the concept of different accuracies for Front/Flank/Back. Look at the pic Seravi posted. The dragoon probably missed the Bee from the front or Raff from the front while avoiding Devour, where the Acc cap is listed as 499+.

Don't assume, just read. I talked about the bee. When you get honey the bee is on you it faces you.
He told me he missed during the fight with 486 acc, no one stands in front of raffy except tanks so conclusion?

[Raldo]

Ok, so bee aside:

1) Possibly a positional mistake since Raff rotates to give people the sucky sucky & honey.
2) What direction does the middle briar add face? I've never played a job in T6 that gave a shit about orientation, and I can never see it because of Raff's fat ass.
3) Don't forget about the slime/slugs, if you guys kill some/all of those.