FFXIV Random Complaint Thread: Look forward to it

[Tokitoki]

The game - at least the dungeon portion of it - is getting to the point where if your FC isn't doing content, its just best not to do said content. With everyone FATE grinding, the only worthwhile people running dungeons are there specifically for gear set completion, such as brayflox.

That's sad. I was looking forward to playing through Qarn since it was the next dungeon in line. I watched a few runs through on Youtube as well which made me excited. Thinking about it, though, it makes sense that any DF group you'd get would be horrible at it. Too bad all my LS members have outleveled me at this point because I haven't been able to get on much...

[Mortilox]

is an eye for an eye worth grinding up arcanist to level 32?

does it work on bosses?

[spd]

is an eye for an eye worth grinding up arcanist to level 32?

does it work on bosses?

Does work on them yea, only one of the black mages i play with often uses it, but he loves it.

[Voyage1970]

I keep seeing people refer to nerfs coming in 2.1 but considering the comment was in regards to the Live Letter where Yoshida said that once the next tier of content is out (meaning not once Crystal Tower comes out Bahamut's Coil will be nerfed but when the next expansion to Coil comes out the first Coil areas will be nerfed) will this be an issue. 2.1 is giving us Crystal Tower which is a step below Coil so you still have until whenever 2.2 is going to hit for Coil update (he said he is going to alternate Tower > Coil > Tower > Coil) to beat all of Tier 1 Coil before the nerf. He also said his idea for the nerf would be something like what happens when you fail a Guild or Main Scenario quest and you get a buff that increases HP and increases damage. If this is the route he takes I'm sure there will be a way to cancel said buff or reset it somehow.

[Lucavi]

Well, the only person who was crying about how the sky is falling is Ratman, and he convienently rolled out with his tail between his legs, so I suppose its not an issue. Content will be adjusted when content gets adjusted. I'm far more interested in:

1) Combating RMT threats/ POS hacking
2) Addressing both latency and server registration issues
3) Adjusting Job disparity
4) Adjusting punishing gathering mechanics (see 1), and how RMT can easily bypass all cockblocks designed to punish players, leading to a wholly unjust system even within the confines of a grinding game about making SE money each month)
5) Addressing or at least clarifiying the design philosophy behind having trash serve no point other than to waste time and expend money from the player (no gil, no random chance at loot, no direct ties to bosses -IE. weakening the boss or changing their mechanics if...

[amentis]

Well, the only person who was crying about how the sky is falling is Ratman, and he convienently rolled out with his tail between his legs, so I suppose its not an issue. Content will be adjusted when content gets adjusted. I'm far more interested in:

1) Combating RMT threats/ POS hacking
2) Addressing both latency and server registration issues
3) Adjusting Job disparity
4) Adjusting punishing gathering mechanics (see 1), and how RMT can easily bypass all cockblocks designed to punish players, leading to a wholly unjust system even within the confines of a grinding game about making SE money each month)
5) Addressing or at least clarifiying the design philosophy behind having trash serve no point other than to waste time and expend money from the player (no gil, no random chance at loot, no direct ties to bosses -IE. weakening the boss or changing their mechanics if...

That really is the biggest one. While I was choco-porting from Hyrstmill, I saw a Tarutaru gatherbot in the tree tops, porting from tree to tree before blinking down to the ground to gather, like a tiny, creepy predator. That they're so blatant, and the response to them being reported is so slow is utterly ridiculous, and borderline insulting. SE is paying more attention to people glitching Hydra than they are the flagrant botting that's already ruined most of the economy on some of the brand new servers.

[Lucavi]

And its essentially the same type that's been in existence on SE servers since XI's hayday back in 04-05. You can't tell me that they don't know about it, but can they stop it? They could at least talk -about- it. At least let a paying customer know that SE isn't sitting high in some dark castle, ignorant to the plight of their unwashed peasant serfs.

[Voyage1970]

5) Addressing or at least clarifiying the design philosophy behind having trash serve no point other than to waste time and expend money from the player (no gil, no random chance at loot, no direct ties to bosses -IE. weakening the boss or changing their mechanics if...

Along with Job adjustments, this is really what I'm hoping they fix. Something along the lines of Kuja's Palace from IX where you can lower the bosses Defense/Attack/M.Att/M.Def/Acc/Eva/etc. by either interacting with the dungeon or killing specific minibosses.

Edit: And make it so with enough gear/skill you can skip the minibosses and speed run to megaboss.

[Tyrath]

I would love for them to fix the main story quest "Ye of Little Faith" that has currently been broken for a few days. Can't advance in the story -_-

[Gokulo]

SMall mention of RMT by Yoshi here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1290186

[Churchill]

I think you answered your own question, the trash is there to waste your time and expend your resources. I don't know what part of 2.0 makes you think they are amenable to changing that or that wasting your time and expending your resources isn't their entire global strategy but I'm all ears.

One of my favorite parts of 1.0 was that trash were trash. You go into AV/CC, you pull an entire room and you nuke the fuck out of everything and if you're a fucking badass you crush it all and if not then you fucking suck and get to piddle around with your gimp ass barely 25m SR's. Obviously this sucked because you had a 15m wait after each clear, but you were still free to do anything else while you waited. Rotating AV/CC/Garuda (or any 2) meant you weren't ever really waiting for the dungeon timer.

Edit: Also your new servers econs are shit for the reasons you said legacy ones would be shit. Legacy servers econs are only shit because there's no HQ market and BoE gear with a materia system (where you are unable to get new materia at any normal rate) is probably the worst shit ever. Gathering in this game is not a way to make money, not anymore anyway. There is no value to HQ items because they are unnecessary. I'm fairly certain they are trying to drain a fuckload of gil and a fuckload of shards from the economies of legacy servers and new servers are just getting fucked because SE is dumb. That's what I tell myself anyway, I know the real answer is that SE is just incompetent. 11 shards per necessary food p.much most obvious shard drain ever.

[Carth]

SMall mention of RMT by Yoshi here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1290186

More specifically:

GW: Talking about shouts, there are lots of Real Money Trade (RMT) related shouts in town, are you planning something to address this?

Yoshi: Right now we are permanent banning them at really fast pace, that’s one, and also we are updating the chat filters daily. We’re making it hit the chat filter first so it doesn’t get to the other players. RMTs are fighting back against this and they are making it more code like......

GW: yes. Specially when you play on NA server, there are messages in which I can’t even understand what it is. There are lots of irritating message flying around.

Yoshi: Yes. They are putting in greek characters, and stuff like that, we are continuing to take those down.

GW: So it’s kind of like Google’s spam filter, we shouldn’t be hearing much of these shouts over time?

Yoshi: Yes exactly. We are updating the chat filter in extreme speed.

GW: It’s not completely gone but the amount sure feels like it’s getting less, so chat filter huh, that’s an interesting idea.

Yoshi: By making it where they can’t even say it. Also when noticing them to permanent ban them, we are working on these thoroughly. Since we’re doing thoroughly, it’s to a point they of harassment. We receive over few hundred reports in one day, and the GM instantly investigates and goes into position to address the matter. As mentioned before we are dealing with them.

GW: So although right now it’s repetitive, the effect is getting greater?

Yoshi: Right now there is a lot going on in America. On the NA forums there is even a thread asking to sell the appearance changing potion with real money which is familiar in F2P. Looking at that kind of thread, I think to myself for RMTs they can’t do any business with increase of F2P MMOs. If world becomes a world where you can buy gold and experience points with real money, there is no way for RMTs to profit from. New big MMO titles using subscription model is FFXIV ARR and TESO so now I understand why they are desperate. Only thing left for us to do is to exterminate them.

[Corrderio]

1) Combating RMT threats/ POS hacking

To this day, I still wonder why SE never added an effective spam filter. Yes there is one but it's so easy to work around it's pretty much useless. I really wish they'd take a page from GW2 for a spam system.

[amentis]

I know the real answer is that SE is just incompetent.

Annnnd that's the real answer to this entire thread, really. I mean, the only reason I actually play this game is because someone bought it for me as a way to inflict psychological punishment on me.

[Churchill]

To be clear, Yoshi is just as incompetent. He is a part of SE and this mess. pmuch barack hussein obama of game producers.

[amentis]

Hope™. Coming Soon™.

[Neviskio]

Annnnd that's the real answer to this entire thread, really. I mean, the only reason I actually play this game is because someone bought it for me as a way to inflict psychological punishment on me.

Problem is that most of us I'm guessing either enjoy the game, or have(had) the hope of square actually LEARNING from their mistakes for once, I personally can say that while I expected them to do many wrongs, I would not have expected such a low quality from a second launch. I'm all up for supporting the dev when it should be done, but they have some idiotic approach to things that is really hard to bear through. Their pr/support departments basically are competing with ea for being shit, and that's hardcore to even think of.

I'll be honest, today I got some hopes, friend harassed me so much I had to go do AK with him, and joy for all the realm I had only 1.5 sec delay, so I didn't get hit once by bullshit aoes, felt like weeks since last time it happened, and well, I really enjoyed the game today when actually being able to play without feeling like a retard...wish they'd hurry up and fix that since it's really a terrible thing to have still. Ok launch issues, FINE, but fucks sake, the game's decent if it works.

Also on another note: I don't understand why they are already nerfing content, I'll say it first, I didn't go past ifrit since I didn't want to be a liability for my groups with my delay, but the game by videos/strategies doesn't really feel harder than most other mmos around, maybe I'll change my mind when I get into it, but feels pretty standard shit, move from aoe, kill adds if there are, kill boss, gg... Coil can't say since I didn't check strats or what not, but I think the challenge is mostly artificial due to the instance being tuned to be done with gear we don't have access now...Why would they nerf things already is beyond me, and I come from games wher epeople bitch and cry the whole fucking day for nerfs and the devs give in, but not so quick.

Are really people having that many issues on the end game if not lagging? Kinda makes me wonder if the community as a whole is worse than wow one...that scares me actually <.<

[Carth]

To be clear, Yoshi is just as incompetent. He is a part of SE and this mess. pmuch barack hussein obama of game producers.

I've been at odds with him ever since I heard his bullshit answer over not having tells in Dungeons.

The worst part of this is every other player treats him like a religion.

[Lucavi]

I think you answered your own question, the trash is there to waste your time and expend your resources. I don't know what part of 2.0 makes you think they are amenable to changing that or that wasting your time and expending your resources isn't their entire global strategy but I'm all ears.

One of my favorite parts of 1.0 was that trash were trash. You go into AV/CC, you pull an entire room and you nuke the fuck out of everything and if you're a fucking badass you crush it all and if not then you fucking suck and get to piddle around with your gimp ass barely 25m SR's. Obviously this sucked because you had a 15m wait after each clear, but you were still free to do anything else while you waited. Rotating AV/CC/Garuda (or any 2) meant you weren't ever really waiting for the dungeon timer.

Edit: Also your new servers econs are shit for the reasons you said legacy ones would be shit. Legacy servers econs are only shit because there's no HQ market and BoE gear with a materia system (where you are unable to get new materia at any normal rate) is probably the worst shit ever. Gathering in this game is not a way to make money, not anymore anyway. There is no value to HQ items because they are unnecessary. I'm fairly certain they are trying to drain a fuckload of gil and a fuckload of shards from the economies of legacy servers and new servers are just getting fucked because SE is dumb. That's what I tell myself anyway, I know the real answer is that SE is just incompetent. 11 shards per necessary food p.much most obvious shard drain ever.

Yoshi is absolutely a part of SE, and he's done great things, but isn't some savior. He's not coding this game himself, and even if he was, he's still not making all of the basic decisions that should have been made for the game. Still, he's better than Tanaka, and this is still a better product than 1.0., even if for just the varied fucking visuals and locations.


1) There's nothing in 2.0 that makes me believe that anything is going to change. This is SE we're talking about. The only modicum of evidence I could see of some sort of change is that Yoshi stated that he wants more money to drop from instanced content, since they overtuned gil in order to keep inflation down. He then said that it probably wouldn't exist side-by-side with dungeons that reward tomes, so you're not likely to see any changes in terms of AK or endgame runs.

2) Even if you blow all that trash up at once, what do you get for it? You're capped at 50, so no xp. They don't drop cash or rare attempts at sellable items, so that's out. At best, you reduce the time spent in the run and reduce the repair costs, which is nice on both ends, but its still not the main complaint people have. The Queues are the main issue, not how long you're in there at this point, unless you're like Gulk and just have to maximize that FATE grinding time while waiting.

3) Legacy servers also are shit because the top moneymakers (relic upgrading items bought with tomes) aren't in high demand because you faggots actually played that 1.0. crap and already have your fancy-pants relics. Oh well, enjoy your millions. RMT and and the over-influx of 50 gatherers and undercutters have glutted the gathering market, so that's right out. Right now you're either HQing Vanya or selling lubricant for Relics or you aren't making bank like you could be.

[amentis]

I'm perfectly fine with them nerfing content... when a bigger percent of the pop has seen it already, as a way for newer players to catch up, etc. As it stands, a ridiculously small % of the population has done endgame. They should focus on PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO LOG ON AND ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME (sitting in a 40 minute AK queue with a full party doesn't count as playing the game) before they think about nerfing shit.

I'm really b ehind the curve for two reasons. 1: had to level another class to 50 because my group of RL friends are tardbabies and we ended up with 1 tank 3 dps, and 2: my group of RL friends isn't at least 8 people, and we haven't really looked for a larger FC yet. I'm ok with being behind the curve when it's my own choice, but it's fucking dumb when I spend more time sitting in queue with a full party than I do actually doing the fucking dungeons. I don't have the fucking patience to grind tomes when it doesn't feel like I'm even getting anywhere due to the idiotic instance server queues.