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  1. #3521
    Old Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    The reason you have to wait is NOT a bug. The reason you have to wait is because you cannot start another skill until your previous animation finishes. Not a bug but still questionable design.
    I don't think it's exactly animation (though close enough). It's more "waiting for the universal buff/debuff check tick". Old-at-this-point example being Bio>Fester (Bio didn't count).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon View Post
    The fact that an add pops and I get hate on it, but darts away for 2s then stops, turns, and returns to me is bad.
    I have never understood this. Is this due to the server being slow with registering that the enmity has changed?

  3. #3523
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    Different non GCD abilities not working is the main problem. Brutal Swing is one notorious for not wanting to fire off, same with Sentinel. Other stuff like Circle of Scorn, Rampart, Mercy Stroke all work nearly instantly.

    Most of our recordings are just me saying the game is shit because combos don't proc or shit just generally sucks.

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    Yeah i see the problem in some fates but the majority if shit yall complain about is just nin existent for me.

  5. #3525
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Different non GCD abilities not working is the main problem. Brutal Swing is one notorious for not wanting to fire off, same with Sentinel. Other stuff like Circle of Scorn, Rampart, Mercy Stroke all work nearly instantly.

    Most of our recordings are just me saying the game is shit because combos don't proc or shit just generally sucks.
    Dude the game just straight up ate my Berserk the other day. Popped Inner Release and Berserk. Berserk went on cooldown, didn't get the buff and my damage was definitely not increased.

    WAR has enough problems as it is without having to fight the game to actually control your character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon View Post
    It's ridiculous. The fact that an add pops and I get hate on it, but darts away for 2s then stops, turns, and returns to me is bad. I use halone on a mob and halfway through the animation it runs away and interrupts my skill is stupid. For a game that's all about precision the way it's coded is completely wrong. This really breaks the combat and honestly will stop this game from ever being good. They'll forever be 'broken mechanics' that you have to do something to get around. Like you said, doing nothing but waiting for ifrit to use eruption because you'll miss if you don't.
    Its coded like I'd expect a Japanese company to code it. The sad part is that they got the code right in certain parts, like pets immediately dropping down when you do instead of the old days of running around the long way and aggroing everything. Then you get stupid shit like the afforementioned nonsense of mobs spawning and completing their pre-determined movement path before turning and actually moving towards whatever has hate on it. That mess is complete bullshit.

    Its 2013. Learn to code, Japan.

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    Is there any way to just....turn your character without moving with the Legacy movement setting? I really like that movement option, but not being able to find a way to turn without moving annoys me greatly. No idea why right click + mouse movement doesn't seem to work for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth View Post
    Is there any way to just....turn your character without moving with the Legacy movement setting? I really like that movement option, but not being able to find a way to turn without moving annoys me greatly. No idea why right click + mouse movement doesn't seem to work for that.
    are you talking about like.. say you're on auto-run and you want to turn your camera so you can have it facing your character while running? if so, I'm using the default controls there and it's just left-click on the mouse to do that.

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    He's asking if there's a way to spin your character, which I don't think there is.

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    Yeah, for when casting and an enemy decides to run passed you or too far off to the side. Sorry for not being more specific. >.>

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    Does /facetarget (or its keybind) work while casting? If so that'd be the way I guess. Only way you can turn in legacy mode is being in lolfirstperson, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth View Post
    Yeah, for when casting and an enemy decides to run passed you or too far off to the side. Sorry for not being more specific. >.>
    Holding Right Click and using your mouse makes the character spin with it, its what i use to target.

    If you hold left click and use the WASD Your character will move but the camera will remain stationary.

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    Holding right click and using the mouse does not turn my character with Legacy control setting. It does with the other movement setting, but I really dislike that movement setting.

    edit: My character does auto face the target I'm casting on....when it starts casting, but if they move or whatever, it will cause the cast to fail.

  14. #3534
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    I changed to legacy controls this morning (on PC) and all that changed is instead of the super slow backup is that I turn and run to get out of the way of AOE faster. Everything else seems to work pretty much the same, but maybe I am missing something. I can still steer with the mouse.

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    face target spam

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    There is a way to rotate your character with Legacy controls however it's slightly tricky. Hitting Walk Backwards + LMB & RMB at the same time allows you to rotate your character while casting a spell so mobs moving out of your line of sight shouldn't be an issue. However, if you are out of sync when hitting Walk Backwards or LMB & RMB, your character will move slightly forward or backward causing you to interrupt the spell. You can probably circumvent this with some crafty use of keybinds/hardware macro though.

    Also, people thinking you can't beat Ifrit if Eruptions aren't stun.. gonna be funny when that shit is unstunnable in Extreme mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    Also, people thinking you can't beat Ifrit if Eruptions aren't stun.. gonna be funny when that shit is unstunnable in Extreme mode.
    I always get irked when people say "Don't bother dodging eruption. The tank will stun it."

    Then from the transition from Phase 1 to Phase 2 happens, and Stun gets resisted, then a WHM dies because they didn't bother moving. Which usually leads to a full panic of everyone else except me and the friend I'm helping dying.

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    I think one of my bigger complaints is that NPCs totally forget about you after you've done their quests. There's no recognition or even ambiguity at all. I can understand that maybe they can't do that for all NPCs, but I feel like there should at least be a dialogue change for job/class quest NPCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    I think one of my bigger complaints is that NPCs totally forget about you after you've done their quests. There's no recognition or even ambiguity at all. I can understand that maybe they can't do that for all NPCs, but I feel like there should at least be a dialogue change for job/class quest NPCs.
    Curious Gorge: Thanks for saving my sanity blah blah. *50 done whatever*
    *5 seconds later*
    Curious Gorge: Who the fuck are you I'm swinging an axe here it's fucking dangerous get out of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    I think one of my bigger complaints is that NPCs totally forget about you after you've done their quests.
    I particularly enjoy clicking too fast between two quests.

    Thanks for completing your task! Blah blah blah.

    Welcome to the [class] guild. Do you wish to know more about [class]?

    Oh! I have another task for you. Blah blah blah.

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